War in Ukraine

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DonjoVol said:
I've given my thoughts on Antifa in other threads LMAO. One, I don't like repeating myself. Two, if you guys don't have basic reading comprehension skills at this point in your life then I don't know how to help you.
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Your lack of logic and inability to understand the simple concepts of debate are why you are aren’t in the “big club” that you are so jealous of
 
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USF grad in TN said:
Putin’s Own Men Are Already Discussing Who Will Replace Him
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"There are probably almost no [members of the elite] who are satisfied with Putin. [The business community] and many members of the government are unhappy that the president started the war without thinking about the scale of sanctions—it’s impossible to live with such sanctions,” another source close to the Kremlin told Meduza.

“The problems [in Russia due to the war] are already evident, and in the middle of the summer they will just come pouring down from all directions: transportation, medicine, even agriculture. Nobody thought about such a scale [of impacts],” another source said.

Maybe they should get @Rasputin_Vol to show them the yahoo finance infographic that he uses to deduce "everything's fine."
 
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Given that Russia is - quite literally - running out of decent troops and equipment, my $0.02 regarding Putin's next move...

I think Putin wants out of his Chinese finger trap in a big way. But he still needs to save face. Solution?

Declare victory. "Mission Accomplished!" (worked for W right? *cough*)

Russia troops are concentrating all they got (left) on the Donbas area. And they are picking up small bits of land and small towns very, very slowly. But, they are losing troops and materiel at a completely unsustainable rate.

I think Russia will probably take Lyman - which is on the wrong side of the river - and possibly Severodonetsk. Which is a pretty big prize.

Then maybe Lysychansk. But I think that's all they could capture with the horsepower they got at this point. Slovyansk and Kramatorsk won't be taken.

Then, Putin declares fait accompli! Surprise! The Russian goal the whole time was to only capture a land bridge to Crimea. Attacking Kyiv and Karkiv was all part of Putin's 4D chess game - a big diversion. Vodka all around! @volgr parties like its 1999.

THE WAR IS OVER!!!

Of, course, there's just. One. Problem.

Ukraine ain't done. Ukraine is just ramping up with heavy artillery, Harpoon missiles, and other game-changing western equipment.

Putin will publicly offer his "reasonable" truce terms that Zelensky will quickly quash.

Net/Net... the war continues. Putin sues for peace. Most western nations (including us) tell Zelensky "It's your call on continuing to fight or not". Russia digs in its troops in defensive positions. There's a stalemate for several months. Then Ukraine begins to bring a large arsenal of 777s, other artillery, and newly trained troops to the front, and it slowly but surely obliterates the Russian lines and equipment click by click.

I think by late Summer, Ukraine is fully on the offensive and pushes Russian troops backwards. It'll be a slog, but with superior artillery, they'll slowly but surely knock the Russian troops out of their land. When Ukraine has mastered our HIMARS system - with a range of 500 kilometers - the first thing they'll probably do is knock out the entire moored Russian fleet in Sevastopol. The Crimean bridge is also waiting to be destroyed, thereby cutting off close supplies to Crimea. Also, if true, Patriot missile batteries will eventually be up and running - obviously a much longer learning curve there.

In short, Russia simply does NOT have a solution to counter western-supplied artillery. Ukraine is getting up to speed on their use now. Once their troops are ready, it's over for Russia.

Unless Putin loses his mind and goes nuclear, Russia will be expelled from Ukraine. It's just a matter of time.
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Truth. Thats why they are trying to open up conscription enlistment for people over 40..
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Truth. Thats why they are trying to open up conscription enlistment for people over 40..
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I can understand how a young, naïve, broke kid with no real ties may sign up for the Russian army. At 18, I was indestructible. You'd have to be pretty desperate post 40 to need to sign up to go fight a war wherein you probably have a good idea that your body isn't even going to be shipped back home.
 
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I can understand how a young, naïve, broke kid with no real ties may sign up for the Russian army. At 18, I was indestructible. You'd have to be pretty desperate post 40 to need to sign up to go fight a war wherein you probably have a good idea that your body isn't even going to be shipped back home.
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Do you or do you not hate Nazis?!!!! Take another swig.
 
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Russian troops move to encircle strategic city in eastern Ukraine

Russian forces have launched a concerted campaign to encircle Severodonetsk — the last major city in Luhansk province and easternmost point of the Donbas still under Ukrainian control — along with its sister city, Lysychansk, just to the south. If successful, the move would trap Ukrainian troops defending the area and open Russia’s path to Kramatorsk, the Ukrainian government’s main administrative and military node in the east.
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Septic said:
“The problems [in Russia due to the war] are already evident, and in the middle of the summer they will just come pouring down from all directions: transportation, medicine, even agriculture. Nobody thought about such a scale [of impacts],” another source said.

Maybe they should get @Rasputin_Vol to show them the yahoo finance infographic that he uses to deduce "everything's fine."
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Down down down (or up up up depending on your perspective)

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You do know that China has been devaluing its currency for years for a reason. A strong ruble is not necessarly a good thing for Russia. Besides the average Russian who has a few rubles in his pocket has fewer goods to spend it on.
 
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Hunerwadel said:
You do know that China has been devaluing its currency for years for a reason. A strong ruble is not necessary a good thing for Russia. Besides the average Russian who has a few rubles in his pocket has fewer goods to spend it on.
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He can't bring himself to address that Russia's own central bank is projecting a 15% contraction in their economy. Outsiders are predicting even more dire news. Over 30% contraction. Putin just screwed his own country.
 
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