War in Ukraine

[Hunerwadel]

Ukraine will not re-take Donbas, Crimea or Crimean land bridge. We can bet on that.

It depends of how fast and far the political situation in Russia deteriorates. I cannot say for sure but it appears that Putin is on his last leg. Literally and metaphorically.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Lol

And you believe those places will remain “independent?”

They will be independent from Georgia...

 

[IluvdoubleD's]

You get one of these stories like every 24 hrs or something. Powerful American Artillery Enters the Fight in Ukraine

 

[volgr]

The French Foreign Legion is heavily populated with neo-Nazis and white supremacist, should they be expecting a Russian invasion?

Are they committing atrocities on ethnic Russians in France with the French Gov'ts blessing?

 

[volgr]

It depends of how fast and far bad the political situation in Russia deteriorates. I cannot say for sure but it appears that Putin is on his last leg. Literally and metaphorically.

Yeah, we've heard that for years. Putin is 69 years old and he isn't immortal.

 

[volgr]

It's not often I agree with Kissinger, but...

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Wow what? Should someone now invade china because of their treatment of the Uyghurs?

If they have the military means and if they believe that the Uyghurs are facing real abuse based on the reporting of Adrian Zenz, then why not? The US shouldn't be engaged in that kind of nonsense because we can't economically justify it and we simply don't have a track record of success in doing this. If someone like Erdogan wants rescue felloe Muslims, let him have at it.

 

[hog88]

Are they committing atrocities on ethnic Russians in France with the French Gov'ts blessing?

Russian and Ukrainian are the same ethnicity.

The FFL has committed numerous atrocities over the years.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Do you believe that that the autonomous free zone of Antifa should be able to claim themselves as an independent country in Portland or Seattle?

They can. They did. How did that work out for them?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Their internal problem that requires fixing by Russian military actions?

Russia felt it was justified by the fact that the breakaway republics had requested their help and were made up of a significant number of ethnic Russians/Russian speaking people.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

So you're completely ok with one nation invading another without any valid reason? Well, no reason except "they're Nazis"

There are Nazis in the US. Can Mexico legally invade us now?

That is where you are wrong. Putin completely laid out the reasoning before the invasion. It's just that you and others like you chose to dismiss his reasons.

 

[hog88]

That is where you are wrong. Putin completely laid out the reasoning before the invasion. It's just that you and others like you chose to dismiss his reasons.

His reasons were not valid.

 

[Weezer]

That is where you are wrong. Putin completely laid out the reasoning before the invasion. It's just that you and others like you chose to dismiss his reasons.

His reasons weren't valid. They were born of paranoia.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Are you saying my stance is not consistent? I don't support the US doing it, don't support Russia, don't story China, etc. Why anyone would is a mystery

You are aware that this was 8 years in the making, right? Russia tried to resolve this diplomatically with Minsk II ceasefire agreements and refused to annex the Donbas republics in 2014 when they had referendums for independence.

 

[allvol123]

I know when I have valid reasoning I always go the Nazi argument route.

 

[NorthDallas40]

This thread is lively this morning! I’m glad some others have had a chance to play with our window licking Pootin stooges.

 

[USF grad in TN]

It's not often I agree with Kissinger, but...

What is the "status quo ante"? Russia keeps Crimea and returns Donbas?

 

[DonjoVol]

Their internal problem that requires fixing by Russian military actions?

It's a problem Ukraine was not trying to fix.

 

[NorthDallas40]

What is the "status quo ante"? Russia keeps Crimea and returns Donbas?

Russia keeps whatever lands they can grab before the cease fire as far as Ras and Volgr are concerned. And of course Ukraine must give up any areas they retook.

 

[utvolpj]

It's a problem Ukraine was not trying to fix.

So it's Russia's responsibility? They're now the arbiter of good and just in the world?

 

[NorthDallas40]

It's a problem Ukraine was not trying to fix.

Actually they were. Russian backed separatists just kept interfering Curly. And that still doesn’t justify invading Ukraine you disingenuous troll

 

[hog88]

I know when I have valid reasoning I always go the Nazi argument route.

If I have too much to drink on the weekend, it's the Nazis fault.

 

[USF grad in TN]

Russia keeps whatever lands they can grab before the cease fire as far as Ras and Volgr are concerned. And of course Ukraine must give up any areas they retook.

I think volgr just agreed that Putin should give back everything he took during the invasion and open the Black Sea to commercial traffic.

 

[MontyPython]

Ukraine will not re-take Donbas, Crimea or Crimean land bridge. We can bet on that.

Mkay. I think Ukraine will begin retaking currently occupied areas. Should be well on there way to pushing Russia back by later this year.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I think volgr just agreed that Putin should give back everything he took during the invasion and open the Black Sea to commercial traffic.

I assure you he will state he did no such thing even with the evidence there for all to see.