War in Ukraine

[LouderVol]

Go ahead and take it that way. You could be right. Also could be a backdoor way of joining NATO. Either way, the result is the same. The state of Ukraine (whether it is just Galicia or the rest of Ukraine left after Russia gets their part, will not exist. All of this hand wringing and talk about Ukrainian sovereignty was bogus.

It's the exact same argument you use for Dontesk.

If people choose to be free or join a collective, that's fine.

If people are forced to join another nation or a collective that is wrong.

Russia is resorting to force. That is wrong. Period. Doesnt matter what the people choose to do. Russia is in the wrong for using force, and as the only ones using force to get their results they are the worst offender.

-If I get a woman to have sex with me great, no one should care. That's what's happening with Finland and Sweden joining NATO.
-If I pay a woman to have sex with me, that's ok to as long as she is willing, and no one should care unless they have previously paid for the same sex. That's what you believe the US is doing with Ukraine.
-If I rape a woman in order to have sex, that's wrong. That is what Russia is doing. They are taking what they want by force and trying to justify their wrong because others were otherwise able to get what they wanted.

 

[volgr]

Russia is resorting to force. That is wrong. Period.

If only the world were that black and white.

 

[Hunerwadel]

If only the world were that black and white.

Worst job ever of cherry picking someone's post.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I particularly enjoyed the part where more posters joined your side in excusing neo-nazi Azov.

Oh no doubt. Don’t forget the ominous Western Death Cult (tm) Larry!

 

[volgr]

Worst job ever of cherry picking someone's post.

The poster is stating a ridiculous absolute. It wasn't cherry picked. Good grief.

 

[Septic]

Septic has already stated he has no qualms with Azov, as have most in here.

I said that? Huh.

I don't know. Maybe you inferred it because I said Putin is a piece of ****.

How you get from A to B on much of your nonsense may forever remain a mystery.

 

[FLVOL_79]

I can understand how a young, naïve, broke kid with no real ties may sign up for the Russian army. At 18, I was indestructible. You'd have to be pretty desperate post 40 to need to sign up to go fight a war wherein you probably have a good idea that your body isn't even going to be shipped back home.

They need them rubles for that "top shelf" Stoli!

I'm 42 and cant even imagine doing 99% of the sh!t I did when I was in the service. "Want to fast rope out of a helicopter!??" lol no f#@king way.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I said that? Huh.

I don't know. Maybe you inferred it because I said Putin is a piece of ****.

How you get from A to B on much of your nonsense may forever remain a mystery.

The cognitive skills of the stooge trio don’t appear to be fully functional … or hell even present most of the time.

WhATaBoUTisM NoN SeQUituR!!!

 

[Septic]

Do you or do you not hate Nazis?!!!! Take another swig.

Those boys only care about fresh Adidas track suits, vodka and looking cool while squatting.

 

[DonjoVol]

Your lack of logic and inability to understand the simple concepts of debate are why you are aren’t in the “big club” that you are so jealous of

Nobody is jealous of anything. It's a quote from George Carlin. Maybe you should do some simple research Captain Mauser before you throw out multiple early morning non sequiturs.

 

[Hunerwadel]

The poster is stating a ridiculous absolute. It wasn't cherry picked. Good grief.

The parts of Lauder's post which you erased explained exactly why Russia was absolutely wrong.

 

[MontyPython]

A Major General and four more Majors have been added to the list of senior Russian officers going home as Cargo-200

 

[Septic]

Nobody is jealous of anything. It's a quote from George Carlin. Maybe you should do some simple research Captain Mauser before you throw out multiple early morning non sequiturs.

What's the difference between you and Boris here?

Boris actually knows what a non sequitur is.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Septic has already stated he has no qualms with Azov, as have most in here.

Yep. No qualms. You act like Azov is the modern day equivalent to the Sonderkomanndos and some mean Sturmfuhrers. The reality is some Azov people in the past might have listened to some Rock Against Communism (RAC) White power music and thus you equate them as Nazi's.

Your Rashism forces you to equate anyone who disagrees with your political/racial ideology as a Nazi.

Yet, the crazy thing is, while you point your finger and cry Nazi, your own people are the ones doing everything the Nazi's did....(except win battles and take over countries). What an interesting Nazi paradox...

 

[Septic]

When @BigOrangeTrain shows up to help @Rasputin_Vol out.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Those boys only care about fresh Adidas track suits, vodka and looking cool while squatting.

Russia really is like a huge trailer park and GTA 4 all mashed into one.

 

[FLVOL_79]

He can't bring himself to address that Russia's own central bank is projecting a 15% contraction in their economy. Outsiders are predicting even more dire news. Over 30% contraction. Putin just screwed his own country.

Thats a tactical correction FYI

 

[Septic]

Russia really is like a huge trailer park and GTA 4 all mashed into one.

That's about as an accurate descriptor as one could possibly muster.

 

[Septic]

Thats a tactical correction FYI

"special operation economic resizing"

 

[NorthDallas40]

What's the difference between you and Boris here?

Boris actually knows what a non sequitur is.

Boris could probably correctly identify whataboutism too! Curly needs to be more like Boris

 

[volgr]

The parts of Lauder's post which you erased explained exactly why Russia was absolutely wrong.

That isn't cherry picking, dum dum. He made a definitive statement and even sealed it with, "PERIOD". I'm not arguing his bad reasoning and God awful analogies. If I were, THEN you could say I cherry picked by leaving out his reasoning. Instead I commented that the world isn't black and white, thus his definitive statement is sophomoric as was his whole post.

 

[LouderVol]

Man. You guys keep making the case why the U.S. shouldn't spend a penny to help Ukraine. They are whooping Russia's butt and bringing them to their knees. Plus if Finland jumped in it would be game over for Putin.

If the Sanctions dont matter why did Putin have to change their finance strategy afterwards?

It's been explained to you before but you are too bought in to see past your bs.

Unless you are an idiot, you want help in a war. Even if you are winning. We have seen Russia reach out to its buddies too, but you cant explain that.

 

[volgr]

 

[LouderVol]

Russia didn't steal any land. There were already existing independence movements in Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Do you have something against Abkhaz and Ossetian people?

What does Putin have to do with them? The BS pushed in Ukraine is that there are ethnic Russians there. But now you make Putin sound like the war monger you accuse the US of being going about "freeing" people from their oppressive masters the world over.

Keep up the slant.

 

[LouderVol]

If they can defend it. Same problem with those areas who wanted to be independent of Ukraine. They couldnt defend it. Now, they can.

You mean the Russians armed the locals in what was otherwise a losing fight that would have been over earlier, with many lives saved?

Where have I heard those complaints from before?