War in Ukraine

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volgr said:
Doesn't matter if Ukraine has a Nazi group (prominent at that) in their military? Seriously, you guys will rationalize anything. How can you rationalize that but Russia's military operation in Ukraine is "morally wrong"? You're on a roll this morning.
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Is that justification enough to invade an entire country? Heck, with your logic we can justify the Iraq war
 
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volgr said:
Doesn't matter if Ukraine has a Nazi group (prominent at that) in their military? Seriously, you guys will rationalize anything. How can you rationalize that but Russia's military operation in Ukraine is "morally wrong"? You're on a roll this morning.
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So if russia has Nazis in their military, NATO should invade them right? Yes or no
 
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volgr said:
Doesn't matter if Ukraine has a Nazi group (prominent at that) in their military? Seriously, you guys will rationalize anything. How can you rationalize that but Russia's military operation in Ukraine is "morally wrong"? You're on a roll this morning.
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And remember. Transnistria, Donetsk, Abkhazia and South Ossetia are not allowed to have their independence.
 
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DonjoVol said:
I never called anyone a commie lib LMAO. Plus the term liberal is for open minded people. I don't use the term liberal when referring to leftists, communists, Marxists, Stalinists, neocons, etc. As they are anything but liberal.
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So would you support the antifa group declaring independence from the US using violence?
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
I don’t lap up western propaganda either. But I also don’t lap up Soviet propaganda from “Russians with attitude” and YouTube guys who have been directly paid by former Soviet officials and married within their family. At least have some respect for yourself.
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Yeah, you lap it up because you repeat it here. You aren't on the same level as Septic, DoubeD or Monty, who guzzle it by the gallons., but don't kid yourself. RWA isn't Soviet propaganda. They may be pro-Soviet, but from what I can tell they do a better job than western media at presenting an accurate picture of the war. When they do present something that turns out untrue, they correct it.
 
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volgr said:
Surprise the Russian goal the whole time was what THEY said it was from the beginning and not what the Western Death Cult propagandists said it was. Unreal. Glad you finally admit Ukraine isn't winning, those weapons we have supplied have mattered very little (but muh switchblade drones, lol) and Russia will take the Donbas and most/all of southern Ukraine.

Russia does have a solution for the scenario you lay out (which is the same scenario Scott Ritter lays out, odd so many of you were calling him a Putin puppet just a month or so ago now you are repeating his talking points), declare war on Ukraine and mobilize. The West is already facing huge financial problems, they can't keep Ukraine afloat long enough to fight an actual war (vs a limited military operation) vs Russia. Their remaining cities would be turned to rubble. Hopefully reasonable heads prevail and this ends soon.
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First, your stupid stuff: "The West is already facing huge financial problems, they can't keep Ukraine afloat long enough to fight an actual war". Really? Surely you don't believe the US is running out of money. Your worldview is warped if you actually believe this.

Next, the $64,000 question for you *again*: How, precisely, is Russia going to overcome the western-supplied artillery that has a range significantly longer than Russia's? Ukraine will soon have 100+ US 777 howitzers with Excalibur shells that are accurate to within 6 feet from 25 miles away. Ukraine will also have US HIMARS systems that are similarly accurate from *500* kilometers away.

What is to prevent Ukraine from systematically destroying Russian lines, when they are COMPLETELY OUT OF RANGE of any Russian artillery?

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Rickyvol77 said:
So if russia has Nazis in their military, NATO should invade them right? Yes or no
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No. However, the atrocities committed by Ukraine's neo-Nazi's is but one of a quite few different reasons the Russians decided to finally intervene militarily in Ukraine.
 
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MontyPython said:
Let's make this worthwhile. Put your money where your mouth is: Let's bet on this - propose a bet on your Russian boys.
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Not my boys. Considering you think Ukraine winning is losing huge amounts of land in the east and south...I don't think we will agree on what a "win" is.
 
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MontyPython said:
First, your stupid stuff: "The West is already facing huge financial problems, they can't keep Ukraine afloat long enough to fight an actual war". Really? Surely you don't believe the US is running out of money. Your worldview is warped if you actually believe this.
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Already seeing editorials in the NYT signaling the US can't keep this level of funding up. What is our national debt currently? Highest debt to GDP in our history? We can keep bleeding billions to Ukraine? May want to rethink that one. If Trump/DeSantis win in 2024 (looking very likely at this point), Ukraine will quickly be cut-off and it may happen after the bloodbath in the mid-terms.

Next, the $64,000 question for you *again*: How, precisely, is Russia going to overcome the western-supplied artillery that has a range significantly longer than Russia's? Ukraine will soon have 100+ US 777 howitzers with Excalibur shells that are accurate to within 6 feet from 25 miles away. Ukraine will also have US HIMARS systems that are similarly accurate from *500* kilometers away.

What is to prevent Ukraine from systematically destroying Russian lines, when they are COMPLETELY OUT OF RANGE of any Russian artillery?
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The same way they are overcoming western supplied artillery now.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
That’s what I thought. I know exactly why you refuse to answer 😂 I just wanted to verify for sure
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I've given my thoughts on Antifa in other threads LMAO. One, I don't like repeating myself. Two, if you guys don't have basic reading comprehension skills at this point in your life then I don't know how to help you.
 
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volgr said:
Already seeing editorials in the NYT signaling the US can't keep this level of funding up. What is our national debt currently? Highest debt to GDP in our history? We can keep bleeding billions to Ukraine? May want to rethink that one. If Trump/DeSantis win in 2024 (looking very likely at this point), Ukraine will quickly be cut-off and it may happen after the bloodbath in the mid-terms.



The same way they are overcoming western supplied artillery now.
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Mhmmm...

And how is Russia "overcoming western supplied artillery now", exactly?
 
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volgr said:
Surprise the Russian goal the whole time was what THEY said it was from the beginning and not what the Western Death Cult propagandists said it was. Unreal. Glad you finally admit Ukraine isn't winning, those weapons we have supplied have mattered very little (but muh switchblade drones, lol) and Russia will take the Donbas and most/all of southern Ukraine.

Russia does have a solution for the scenario you lay out (which is the same scenario Scott Ritter lays out, odd so many of you were calling him a Putin puppet just a month or so ago now you are repeating his talking points), declare war on Ukraine and mobilize. The West is already facing huge financial problems, they can't keep Ukraine afloat long enough to fight an actual war (vs a limited military operation) vs Russia. Their remaining cities would be turned to rubble. Hopefully reasonable heads prevail and this ends soon.
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The US has been spending well over $700B a year on defense for over a decade. A large portion of that was to be prepared for a situation just like the Ukraine invasion. Don't think for a minute that the US and the west can't keep Ukraine supplied for very long time to come.
 
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volgr said:
Doesn't matter if Ukraine has a Nazi group (prominent at that) in their military? Seriously, you guys will rationalize anything. How can you rationalize that but Russia's military operation in Ukraine is "morally wrong"? You're on a roll this morning.
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The French Foreign Legion is heavily populated with neo-Nazis and white supremacist, should they be expecting a Russian invasion?
 
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