War in Ukraine

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volgr said:
Where do you think it will be when Russia demands Rubles for other commodities like grain?
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Why haven’t they already? And frankly grain is probably a more leverageable commodity than their oil. The EU just announced a massive spending plan to eliminate the need for Russian energy but that will take time. The same will happen with Russian grain but that’s probably harder to backfill right now.

But it will eventually get replaced as the world is collectively turning their back on Russia for trade or critical resources. It’s just going to take more than the three months to date.
 
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volgr said:
Exactly. So was Russia's goal to take Kyiv? No. Was it because they COULDN'T take Kyiv? No. As Mariupol shows, they can take large well protected Ukrainian cities, when they want to. Now, are there more logistical challenges to taking Kyiv? Of course, but this notion that Russia wanted to take it but couldn't is quite honestly ridiculous. They didn't have near the manpower or logistics to do it. So either their leadership was ridiculously incompetent in regards to Kyiv but quite brilliant in Mariupol, or their goal was never to take Kyiv and those who say Kyiv was a feint are likely accurate in their assessment.
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They vastly underestimated their reception and knew it was going to take more troops and vehicles to take Kyiv than they allocated. Troops and resources they don’t have. Ergo they cannot take Kyiv Larry.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Dugin is a fascist who wants to annex a lot of territory. Not sure what we need to understand.
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I would not call him a fascist as he has specifically stated his 4th political theory does not represent fascism, communism, or liberalism. I would say he was influential in having Jehovah Witnesses banned from Russia. It seems to me his views are more traditionalist than anything. I believe he even stated a return to traditionalism.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Oh, wow, really? He spoke against it? I guess he can’t be one then.
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Glenn Beck claims Dugin is a satanist. Not sure how much truth there is to that.

Anyways. This Millerman guy has a whole channel where he explains all this. He is not pro Dugin in any way but his channel is more educational.

I think Dugin was on 60 minutes sometime recently as well. I have not watched that one yet.
 
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Cue Green Day song, Closing Time....Zelensky about to sacrifice another huge amount of men for nothing.



 
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Septic said:
weird thing for a Nazi to say, no?
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Well the guy has banned political parties and putting people in jail for speaking out against the government. Now he wants a massive surveillance state. And this is the guy who represents democracy? Sounds like he represents fascism and communism.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Well the guy has banned political parties and putting people in jail for speaking out against the government. Now he wants a massive surveillance state. And this is the guy who represents democracy? Sounds like he represents fascism and communism.
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So he's Putin without the poison?
 
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allvol123 said:
Don’t seem very Nazi of him.
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He wants a massive surveillance state it seems. Which is often a characteristic of authoritarian regimes. And we have politicians here who claim Ukraine is an example of democracy. Sounds like they would love to have what Zelensky is pushing.
 
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DonjoVol said:
So you are okay with authoritarianism in Ukraine as long as they don't invade another country?
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Nope. But they’ve declared martial law since late February due to the “special military operation”. Again if it turns up they are wrongly prosecuting innocents they should be held accountable just like the Russians

And the more you stooges screech with the hyperbole on what is really going the more the rest of us tune you out.
 
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newyorkvol said:
I’m no fan of Trump, but this is just funny…..
Fiona Hill says Putin got 'frustrated many times' with Trump because the Russian leader 'had to keep explaining things' to him - NewsBreak
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Trump apparently wouldn't buy the Russian party line. Obviously Pootin had a problem with that and had to keep re 'splainin it to him. Most of us dolts over here have a hard time understanding how Marx's theory could work, too; so I suppose we aren't as smart as the average pre communist Russian.
 
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volgr said:
To add, currently we arent feeling the full sting, just the beginning. Our people are also not used to feeling such pain vs that of the Russian people. We are soft house cats compared to then.
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At least you admit the dictator Putin has produced an environment that is essentially a **** hole for his people, in the best of times.
 
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