War in Ukraine

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Rasputin_Vol said:
If you are going to go back hundreds of years to justify Poland's anger towards Russia, then why is it out of line for me to highlight the opposite end and who actually has the original grievance?

Can't use whataboutism on this, so now what?
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Your level of apologizing for Russia’s History is astounding to me. What next, are you going to claim that Lenin has no choice but to murder Nicholas II and his entire family? Has the county ever been to blame for ANYTHING?
 
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Not too long ago, Estonia was the most advanced online society in the world. I was reading an article you did everything online a decade ago. I remember it.
 
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MSNBC's Nicolle Wallace says Jan. 6 'made everything about invading Ukraine easier for Vladimir Putin'

MSNBC star Nicolle Wallace suggested that Russia's invasion of Ukraine is directly linked to the Capitol riot on January 6.

The conversation began with Wallace citing remarks former National Security Council adviser Fiona Hill made arguing that Russian President Vladimir Putin would have been emboldened to go into Ukraine himself if then-President Trump was successful in maintaining power following the events of Jan. 6, saying how Putin would view the U.S. as "no different from any other country in the world that just had a coup."

Wallace then referred to "some experts" who believe the extreme politician divisions that unfolded that day in Washington D.C. "solidified Vladimir Putin's ambitions to go to war in Ukraine, because even though Trump had not succeeded, Putin saw a window of opportunity in January 6 to strike while America wrestled with its own deep conflicts."

MSNBC legal analyst Daniel Goldman agreed with Hill, calling Jan. 6 a "triggering moment" that "opened the door" for Putin to invade Ukraine because of perceived instability in the U.S.

MSNBC's Nicolle Wallace says Jan. 6 'made everything about invading Ukraine easier for Vladimir Putin'
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Your level of apologizing for Russia’s History is astounding to me. What next, are you going to claim that Lenin has no choice but to murder Nicholas II and his entire family? Has the county ever been to blame for ANYTHING?
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You are the one that went back several centuries to justify some woke Poles spraying paint on a Russian ambassador. I responded in kind with an actual historical event that happened before that and now you guys want to scream bloody murder and whataboutism.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Meanwhile, if we are going back centuries, you have the Poles, Napoleon and the Germans 2Xs in the 20th Century attacking Russia through the exact same path way through the European plain that runs through Ukraine.

And yet, Russia doesn't have legitimate security concerns. Even if you all remove Putin, no Russian leader is going to allow that region to be a superhighway for an advancing army (or military alliance) and certainly won't stand for it in the age of nukes.
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Russia attacked Germany in WWI.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
MSNBC's Nicolle Wallace says Jan. 6 'made everything about invading Ukraine easier for Vladimir Putin'

MSNBC star Nicolle Wallace suggested that Russia's invasion of Ukraine is directly linked to the Capitol riot on January 6.

The conversation began with Wallace citing remarks former National Security Council adviser Fiona Hill made arguing that Russian President Vladimir Putin would have been emboldened to go into Ukraine himself if then-President Trump was successful in maintaining power following the events of Jan. 6, saying how Putin would view the U.S. as "no different from any other country in the world that just had a coup."

Wallace then referred to "some experts" who believe the extreme politician divisions that unfolded that day in Washington D.C. "solidified Vladimir Putin's ambitions to go to war in Ukraine, because even though Trump had not succeeded, Putin saw a window of opportunity in January 6 to strike while America wrestled with its own deep conflicts."

MSNBC legal analyst Daniel Goldman agreed with Hill, calling Jan. 6 a "triggering moment" that "opened the door" for Putin to invade Ukraine because of perceived instability in the U.S.

MSNBC's Nicolle Wallace says Jan. 6 'made everything about invading Ukraine easier for Vladimir Putin'
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It's not far fetched for Putin to believe he could take advantage of the political divide that exists in the US today. He may have guessed albeit wrongly that a significant number of Americans would see things his way. I am grateful that while we are divided on many issues we can still recognize a common enemy.
 
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EasternVol said:
Their current softness is greatly exaggerated.
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most of Western Europe has let their militaries lapse into underfunded lethargy once the Cold War wound down. They are trying to rearm quickly now after the Ukraine invasion but it is going to take time.
Even bigger though than the material softness, the commitment to everything we think of as the West has faltered into postmodern relativism. Patriotism, military service, and fealty to objective truth are now seen as hopelessly outdated kitsch.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Soon
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US "Running Low" On Javelin Missile Stockpiles After Supplying Ukraine, Warns Congressman | ZeroHedge

What's bad is the president himself seems at times to constantly want to remind everybody what we won't do and putting arbitrary limits on our assistance, I think, undermines our effort. But, the real ugly is that we are running low in terms of our stockpiles.

We just burned through seven years of Javelins and that's not only important as we continue to try and help the Ukrainians win in Ukraine, that's important as we try to simultaneously defend Taiwan from aggression from the Chinese Communist Party. They are going to need access to some of these same weapons systems, and we simply don't have the stockpiles at present in order to backfill what we've spent in Ukraine.
 
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