War in Ukraine

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Rasputin_Vol said:
Again, anything that happened after Yanukovich was rushed away was illegitimate. If you want to nitpick about parliamentary procedures that happened after that, have at it. It doesn't really have any consequence to what happened before that.

I'm really not sure what you are trying to say with regards to Putin being empowered to do something based on the actions of parliament. It was pretty obvious by then that Ukraine was a captured state and a puppet of the US.
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Apparently the Ukrainians did NOT get that memo based on their reaction and resistance against Russia. Why aren't the Ukrainians welcoming the Russians as liberators?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Again, anything that happened after Yanukovich was rushed away was illegitimate. If you want to nitpick about parliamentary procedures that happened after that, have at it. It doesn't really have any consequence to what happened before that.

I'm really not sure what you are trying to say with regards to Putin being empowered to do something based on the actions of parliament. It was pretty obvious by then that Ukraine was a captured state and a puppet of the US.
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Lmao “captured state”.
 
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volbound1700 said:
I want ACTUAL proof and not conspiracy **** garbage. Cite to a United Nations article or world report. Oh, I forgot, somehow the entire UN is a USA puppet too under your logic.
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That isn't conspiracy theory. That is actual proof of them setting up the players that they had selected.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Again, anything that happened after Yanukovich was rushed away was illegitimate. If you want to nitpick about parliamentary procedures that happened after that, have at it. It doesn't really have any consequence to what happened before that.

I'm really not sure what you are trying to say with regards to Putin being empowered to do something based on the actions of parliament. It was pretty obvious by then that Ukraine was a captured state and a puppet of the US.
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Oh we know that’s your assertion however you haven’t and can’t sell it. The parliament basically ad hoc’d a 25th Amendment and literally no one opposed them. There were two elections since that parliament vote and no re-emergence of Yanukovych was ever even considered. And where did the stooge run? Exactly where all Pootin stooges run. Russia 🤡

So actually prove your ******** “opinions” or GTFO
 
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volbound1700 said:
I want ACTUAL proof and not conspiracy **** garbage. Cite to a United Nations article or world report. Oh, I forgot, somehow the entire UN is a USA puppet too under your logic.
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Yeah, we all have access to US State Department documents or internal memos. Is this really what you are asking?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
That isn't conspiracy theory. That is actual proof of them setting up the players that they had selected.
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So your belief is the ukraine is a “captured state” of the US and their 20 million citizens didn’t really vote or were forced to vote for Zelensky by the US in 2019?
 
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Hunerwadel said:
I agree. No way should they add a donation without asking. I have tried to find confirmation that this actually happening the way it is being reported here. I found only one other article about it. It was in a Texas newspaper but couldn't read it without signing up. I don't mind being asked donate to something. I can always sa no.
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I haven’t heard a peep of it here in Dallas
 
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ButchPlz said:
We flew bombing runs, had American boots on ground, and ran supply ships and landing craft.

Not to mention the number of American military interventions in central America with big numbers of boots on the ground.

Arguing that the US hasn't "invaded" other countries because the US doesn't call it an "invasion" is slurping propaganda just like you all accuse Russians of doing.
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It was NOT an invasion. The USA did not send even a full division into Cuba. It was an invasion by Cuban rebels we supported. If you want to argue USA invaded Iraq (2x) or Afghanistan, I will agree. However, saying Bay of Pigs is a USA invasion is a stretch and you know it. You are just trolling at this point.

That is nothing like Russia who sent in 100k troops and have very few Ukrainian rebels even in their army.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Looking back thru Ras’s posting history is hilarious. He had a thread where he said he admired Hugo Chavez for standing up to the world. Full on nutjob commie
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To be fair to Ras, modern Russia isn't communist by any stretch. I think it is more on the lines of Fascism than Communism.

One great example of how Russia isn't Communist today is its acceptance of the Russian Orthodox Church, something the Communists did not believe in. They also praise the Czarist era.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
So your belief is the ukraine is a “captured state” of the US and their 20 million citizens didn’t really vote or were forced to vote for Zelensky by the US in 2019?
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See, you are already showing your mendacity. You are putting words in my mouth that either I never said or as usual, you distort what I have said.

Where did I say that the 2019 vote didn't happen or were forced to vote for 3elensky?
 
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volbound1700 said:
It was NOT an invasion. The USA did not send even a full division into Cuba. It was an invasion by Cuban rebels we supported. If you want to argue USA invaded Iraq (2x) or Afghanistan, I will agree. However, saying Bay of Pigs is a USA invasion is a stretch and you know it. You are just trolling at this point.

That is nothing like Russia who sent in 100k troops and have very few Ukrainian rebels even in their army.
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Semantics... You continue to walk that tight rope.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Semantics... You continue to walk that tight rope.
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No, I am not. It isn't an invasion. Look up Webster Dictionary.

Had it been an invasion, the USA would have done like it always done and cleaned their clocks in the initial invasion only to get bogged down in a long occupation.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
“Putin deserves a nobel peace prize”
“Ukraine is ran by neo Nazis”
“Nurses, doctors and hospital admin need to be shot like rabid dogs”
“I’m 70% sure 9/11 was a false flag operation”
“Timothy McViegh was right about a lot of things”
“Police are going to storm your houses, take your guns and force you to get vaccinated”
“The US will use Chemical/biological weapons and blame the Russians”

You. Are. A. Nut. Job. You aren’t “countering” anything but common sense and facts. You will continue to go down being Anti US, anti West, pro Russian mouthpiece and that’s fine. But you are on the fringe of society thank God. It’s not petty, I honestly don’t know whether to laugh or cry for you
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He's basically a troll here. No way does a Tennessee Volunteer take such an anti American, anti West pro Russian view of the world on this issue.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
See, you are already showing your mendacity. You are putting words in my mouth that either I never said or as usual, you distort what I have said.

Where did I say that the 2019 vote didn't happen or were forced to vote for 3elensky?
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You said the Ukraine has been a “captured state” of the US. Is that your belief?

It’s your subsequent belief that the Ukrainian people’s 20 million people who voted in the election in 2019 is not legitimate?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I just posted all the proof I need with that video of Nuland and Pyatt.
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Oh we know that’s all the “proof” you need but any non Pootin stooge requires a much more concrete level of evidence to validate the level of interference you’re claiming. That call comes absolutely nowhere near what you’re claiming. It does show we were playing in there which nobody has contested. But when we didn’t get what we wanted we didn’t invade the freaking country like your man crush, Moe.
 
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I will praise Rasputin_Vol for something, at least he isn't one of those insulting/condescending trolls like Lawrence_Wright in the Disney thread.

Rasputin will at least engage in Civilized Conversation and respond to you. That is better than most internet trolls.
 
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