War in Ukraine

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tvolsfan said:
I was obviously talking about using our military to displace the Castro regime. We aren't talking Spanish American War here.
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You act as though using subversive means and regime change operations are better than military invasions. You couldn't be more wrong in that line of thinking.
 
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ButchPlz said:
We've actually invaded Cuba a couple of times.
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The United States Military has NOT invaded Cuba as a sovereign nation. If they had, they would have won and we would have taken Cuba. We invaded during Spanish American war to help Cuban rebels get their independence. I have no moral issues with that.

Funding and arming Cuba rebels to invade Cuba is not the USA invading Cuba.
 
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volbound1700 said:
The United States Military has NOT invaded Cuba as a sovereign nation. If they had, they would have won and we would have taken Cuba. We invaded during Spanish American war to help Cuban rebels get their independence. I have no moral issues with that.

Funding and arming Cuba rebels to invade Cuba is not the USA invading Cuba.
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Lawyer legalese... You are walking a tight rope and you clearly understand that you are on some BS.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
You act as though using subversive means and regime change operations are better than military invasions. You couldn't be more wrong in that line of thinking.
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Russia is certainly showing the world how it’s done. They’re so successful that they’re talking about using tactical nukes to finally rid the world of gay Ukrainian Nazis.
 
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volbound1700 said:
The United States Military has NOT invaded Cuba as a sovereign nation. If they had, they would have won and we would have taken Cuba. We invaded during Spanish American war to help Cuban rebels get their independence. I have no moral issues with that.

Funding and arming Cuba rebels to invade Cuba is not the USA invading Cuba.
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We flew bombing runs, had American boots on ground, and ran supply ships and landing craft.

Not to mention the number of American military interventions in central America with big numbers of boots on the ground.

Arguing that the US hasn't "invaded" other countries because the US doesn't call it an "invasion" is slurping propaganda just like you all accuse Russians of doing.
 
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ButchPlz said:
We flew bombing runs, had American boots on ground, and ran supply ships and landing craft.

Not to mention the number of American military interventions in central America.

Arguing that the US hasn't "invaded" other countries because the US doesn't call it an "invasion" is slurping propaganda just like you all accuse Russians of doing.
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Pretty sure nobody is saying that. I think you're imagining that.
 
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tvolsfan said:
He's not. That's why the Russian invasion of Ukraine drew much stronger criticism than their support for rebels in Donbas and Transnistria.
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He knows. He’s willfully ignoring this fact because he hates the west and openly roots against the US.

Russia uses influence and arms groups in ukraine. USA uses influence and arms groups in ukraine Both are equally debatable points

russia uses military forces to invade ukraine and kill their citizens. Is bad.
 
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MG1968 said:
Russia is certainly showing the world how it’s done. They’re so successful that they’re talking about using tactical nukes to finally rid the world of gay Ukrainian Nazis.
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The West were the first ones to throw out the nuke card by saying that if Russia uses a chemical, biological or nuclear weapon in the conflict, that it would give NATO a reason to jump in... simply the West preparing the ground for them to trigger a false flag event when it becomes clear that the Ukrainians will be defeated. The Russians responded with their own rhetoric.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
The West were the first ones to throw out the nuke card by saying that if Russia uses a chemical, biological or nuclear weapon in the conflict, that it would give NATO a reason to jump in... simply the West preparing the ground for them to trigger a false flag event when it becomes clear that the Ukrainians will be defeated. The Russians responded with their own rhetoric.
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Lol like I said. One conspiracy theory after another. You also believe we did 9/11 as a false flag too. Nut. Job.
 
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ButchPlz said:
You just said we didn't invade Cuba, for one.
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I said we didn't launch a military invasion to overthrow the Castro's. I in no way said we never invade countries or thought we were justified in doing so. If you want to start a thread criticizing historical US imperialism, feel free to do so. This is about the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
 
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tvolsfan said:
I said we didn't launch a military invasion to overthrow the Castro's. I in no way said we never invade countries or thought we were justified in doing so. If you want to start a thread criticizing historical US imperialism, feel free to do so. This is about the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
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The US didn't launch a military invasion but flew bombing runs/aerial cover, provided specialized boots on the ground, and gave naval support for a military action against a sovereign nation?
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
So that is supposed to prove the US government was behind the plot and planned it? No wait let me guess you are more of the “planes weren’t really there it was a missle” guy. 🙄
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I wonder how someone that can take the stance you do on the government handling of COVID will turn around and accept another story unquestioningly from the same sources. Liars lie. It's always reasonable to think and question.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Okay, clearly you're living in a fantasy world.
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Russia was hit with sanctions and media outrage in 2014 and the West responded with weapons shipments to Ukraine.

Russia was hit with sanctions and media outrage after this event and the West responded with weapons shipments to Ukraine.

WTF is different?

Which one of us is living in a fantasy world?
 
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