War in Ukraine

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Rasputin_Vol said:
No, I continue to use the argument that the US themselves violated the Budapest Agreement that you whine about by inserting themselves into the internal politics of Ukraine and staged a coup of Ukraine in 2014. That was the catalyst for all of this.
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Russia staged the coup. Yanukovich was pro West, right up until he wasnt. It's what got him elected.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
US soldiers give Italian woman birthday cake to replace one stolen in second world war – video
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EasternVol said:
Apparently their rate is much lower than ours. I wonder what it would be if vodka was included.
Drug-related deaths and mortality rates in Europe | dataUNODC
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Yeah, I saw one year I could find in a couple of places which was 2021 - 7,500 deaths or so which the increase was attributed to the pandemic. Also, wonder what this means from your stats "*** Russian Federation: The estimates are not consistent with the statistics provided by the Russian Federation"

So I was pointing out that with the article I posted:

1. you can't compare 1 million deaths in the US (although the CDC says 841,000 in several sources I found) to a lack of reporting of the same time frame from Russia. Yes, we clearly beat them in 2017 in the numbers you provide and probably in all the other years, but who knows. The 1990's was no picnic for Russians as whole.
2. Russia was not included in the article I posted because they weren't one of the 18 wealthiest nations.
 
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One of the most pathetic things I’ve seen is Lukashenko suggesting he could be a colonel in Putin’s army. My dude, you’re a long term dictator, you can ask to be an honorary general.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
No. You keep misrepresenting the situation and wrongly attempting to justify Pootin shredding the document for expediency to rationalize their invasion agenda.

The document was/is still in force. And there is no amount of whataboutism you can levy to justify Pootin breaking their obligations and invading Ukraine.
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Its not whataboutism. The West violated the agreement by interfering in Ukraine elections in 2004, sanctions on Belarus in 2011 and the staging and coordination of the 2014 Ukraine coup. The very thing you accuse Russia of doing is what the West actually did, making the agreement null and void as far as I'm concerned.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Its not whataboutism. The West violated the agreement by interfering in Ukraine elections in 2004, sanctions on Belarus in 2011 and the staging and coordination of the 2014 Ukraine coup. The very thing you accuse Russia of doing is what the West actually did, making the agreement null and void as far as I'm concerned.
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It is whataboutism and it doesn’t absolve Russia of their obligations you disingenuous troll
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Its not whataboutism. The West violated the agreement by interfering in Ukraine elections in 2004, sanctions on Belarus in 2011 and the staging and coordination of the 2014 Ukraine coup. The very thing you accuse Russia of doing is what the West actually did, making the agreement null and void as far as I'm concerned.
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Except Belarus isnt part of the deal. And it was clearly Russia buying off the previously Pro West Yanukovich that was interfering.

But continue to ignore easily searchable facts and stick with your one sided "truth".
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Its not whataboutism. The West violated the agreement by interfering in Ukraine elections in 2004, sanctions on Belarus in 2011 and the staging and coordination of the 2014 Ukraine coup. The very thing you accuse Russia of doing is what the West actually did, making the agreement null and void as far as I'm concerned.
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You ever notice these Ukrainian Bots say the and things over and over and over.
 
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tvolsfan said:
One of the most pathetic things I’ve seen is Lukashenko suggesting he could be a colonel in Putin’s army. My dude, you’re a long term dictator, you can ask to be an honorary general.
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Lukashitko is the epitome of a pootin jock sniffer.

@volgr and @Rasputin_Vol almost certainly envy this cat because he's actually had his nose up next to Pootins rectum.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Its not whataboutism. The West violated the agreement by interfering in Ukraine elections in 2004, sanctions on Belarus in 2011 and the staging and coordination of the 2014 Ukraine coup. The very thing you accuse Russia of doing is what the West actually did, making the agreement null and void as far as I'm concerned.
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Can you say Putin is wrong for invading the sovereign country of Ukraine and the Russians are killing innocent people and the best way for this senseless violence to stop is for Russia to go back home and quit the invasion? Without even mentioning the US or the West or a stolen lady’s cake from WW2?
 
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