War in Ukraine

Crossing the Atlantic went from an impossibility to a regular thing, even if it took months.

Warfare went from men stabbing each other with swords, to muskets.

It's not like there was no innovation, or that none of them were inventive themselves. They would have known change is coming even if they couldnt predict the outcome.

I can't imagine the people around during the preparation of the Constitution even imagining nuclear weapons or ICBMs. Even people a hundred years further down the line probably couldn't have imagined those.
 
I can't imagine the people around during the preparation of the Constitution even imagining nuclear weapons or ICBMs. Even people a hundred years further down the line probably couldn't have imagined those.
I'd say they could envision super weapon explosives that would be prohibitively difficult to use with any regularity
 
I understand. Me... I'd move. A life without free speech is not one I would want.
That's very easy to say from where we sit. We don't know her personal situation: family, friends, work, school, etc. Maybe she stays and tries to makes things better. If she leaves that's one less voice there against tyranny.
 
Your posting history in this thread says otherwise.

Nothing in my posting history says otherwise unless you have reading comprehension issues which is fitting. Your idea of “helping” the Ukrainians is by rolling over to the Russians and living under a Russian puppet. With friends like you, who needs enemies
 
Thank God the "adults" are back in charge. What a bunch of petty b1tches.

Yet, Putin is the only one who has threatened other countries. When you play the nuke card, don't expect friends from threatened countries. Everybody but Russia has shown remarkable restraint ... Russia has shown remarkable incompetence, arrogance, and aggression. Russia right now is nothing more than a huge, thuggish, third world country with nuclear weapons and an irrational leader. It's honestly too bad we are only left to judge the character of a country by it's leaders.
 
One of them, last year told me "we hate putin. we say we want to kill him"(referring to her friends) she said this without me even bringing politics up. What are they supposed to do? she ain't got no guns. she works at a ****in hotel and lives on the 17th floor of a ****** apartment building in moscow thats home to monthly rapes or stabbings/robberies. Theyre already cut off from any support at home and nobody abroad cares either.

Even here where we supposedly have more rights and influence, you could say with almost certainty that there's not one among us on VN who could do anything about Biden's idiocy and his policies. We can vote, but obviously we can't outvote 81M fools. It's a sad fact that people of a country have to be judged by their leaders.
 
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Even here where we supposedly have more rights and influence, you could say with almost certainty that there's not one among us on VN who could do anything about Biden's idiocy and his policies. We can vote, but obviously we can't outvote 81M fools. It's a sad fact that people of a country have to be judged by their leaders.
id prefer the people of both countries to say **** our governments and work together
 
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Seems like big news.


Just semantics. If they don't buy Russian oil, somebody else will. Germany will buy they oil that somebody else rejected for Russian oil. As somebody pointed out before, it's a global commodity. Oil might just as well be poured into one big pot unless it's produced and used domestically ... and then the price is still going to reflect the global price.
 
That's very easy to say from where we sit. We don't know her personal situation: family, friends, work, school, etc. Maybe she stays and tries to makes things better. If she leaves that's one less voice there against tyranny.

That's the major flaw in our open arms for illegals policy. Better they stay and do something about countries they are fleeing, but they won't while there's an easier path.
 
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