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Ulysees E. McGill said:
They can be programmed to cheat..and even make it look better.
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Code and systems can be audited and reviewed quite easily. You can never guarantee against wrongdoing, but it is 100% more controllable than human deception, if that is an issue.

More importantly, it is about overall accuracy. At the end of the day, it can be reviewed and shown to be % more accurate than humans. That is the most important thing. That is ultimate accountability.
 
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Devo182 said:
My question is if "great" or perfect refs actually even exist or are they a figment of our imagination...like hiring the perfect coach. The NFL has awful reffing too (just ask Saints fans) and those are supposed to be the best in the world. But they'll make mistakes. Tons of them. That's human reffing for you. So what expectation do we have for refs? Are they realistic considering human limitations to perceiving movement?

I think fans will always be mad at refs. Every league, every sport, every nation. They'll never be perfect or even close. That doesn't prove bias or cheating though either. Large scale reviews would do such and afaik most major sports all take ref reviews seriously...it is vital to the image of every league after all.
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OMG man...go stick your head in the sand...I am done.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
I really liked what I heard from Coach Martinez and Christian Charles today. I especially recommend the Charles interview posted a page or so back in this thread. jmo.

The key thing from CWM was the culture and leadership in the room and, critical in my view, his noting the need for us to rotate 8-10 guys in the back end in order to stay at our best for the whole game. jmo.

In our game with Pitt last year we start by kicking off to the panthers. Our defense holds them to 3 and out on their first possession. They have to punt from their 12 yard line. The punt is blocked by true freshman Christian Charles and we get the ball on the Pitt 2-yard line. Jabari takes it into the endzone on our first offensive play.

Unfortunately, like a number of others, Christian missed several games last year due to injury but I think he could be a bright spot in our secondary this year. He was a HS QB that we're trying to convert to CB. We've had recent success in this process with Moseley, Thompson, and Taylor. I like our odds with Christian. jmo.

While our pass defense from last year is much maligned and statistically deserving so I’ve said a lot of that relative to others is probably somewhat influenced by the number of pass happy offenses we played last year, some of the best in the nation. We could end up seeing the same this year from various opponents but I think we’ll likely be much improved, owing to added training, experience, familiarity within the system, and hopefully more bodies. jmo.

Interestingly, and perhaps because we faced so many pass happy offenses, last year we were #1 in the SEC for passes broken up/game. We were second behind Georgia in Quarterback Hurries/Game. I think our pass rush could go nuclear this year with the guys we’ve got coming back and the young guys we’re adding, especially Pearce. jmo.

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I like the concept of a stat for quarterback hurries but collection of the data is too subjective IMO, and that seems to show up as inconsistent counts by various observers. I finally gave up on that one.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
If you think officiating is not biased towards favorites in the SEC...then you are blind. I don't care about stupid UK idiots.


They absolutely 100% depend on people like you to keep getting away with this garbage. We have been bent over so many times over the last twenty years that at this point you have to be purposefully doing the ostritch maneuver to not acknowledge it.

I know it sucks to think that there is a certain "fixed" quality to sports...you'd like to believe that you get a fair shake, but I just can not believe that anymore. In certain games...you can almost predict exactly what is going to happen.
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You mean it feels like the teams that win more games get screwed over by the refs less? Uh, maybe because they win more games?

I could go find a dozen bad calls against us in our wins but you probably won't remember any of them, while you'll remember the no call TD against Purdue forever.

There are dozens of officials. Dozens of SEC/NCAA beurocrats. Shouldn't be that hard to find a whistleblower. Until then, miss me with the refs conspiracy talk. The same fans who say the SEC and NCAA is full of morons and dipshits will turn around on a dime and say they are out here seamlessly and flawlessly fixing games so effectively that there is zero evidence.
 
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I went back and looked for the post that linked the Penn State rapist article you guys were talking about earlier and I can't find it. Do any of you guys know where it went? I went all the way back in this thread to during the game last night, and it is not in the OT thread either..🤷‍♂️
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
I went back and looked for the post that linked the Penn State rapist article you guys were talking about earlier and I can't find it. Do any of you guys know where it went? I went all the way back in this thread to during the game last night, and it is not in the OT thread either..🤷‍♂️
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BigSteve09 said:
Have you guys read this yet?

Before Jerry Sandusky, Penn State football had another serial sexual predator. This is the untold story of his crimes and the fight to bring him to justice.

Man...
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Ten_Titans said:
You mean it feels like the teams that win more games get screwed over by the refs less? Uh, maybe because they win more games?

I could go find a dozen bad calls against us in our wins but you probably won't remember any of them, while you'll remember the no call TD against Purdue forever.

There are dozens of officials. Dozens of SEC/NCAA beurocrats. Shouldn't be that hard to find a whistleblower. Until then, miss me with the refs conspiracy talk. The same fans who say the SEC and NCAA is full of morons and dipshits will turn around on a dime and say they are out here seamlessly and flawlessly fixing games so effectively that there is zero evidence.
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I am at some sort of sporting event every single weekend and every team’s fans think every single official has made bad calls toward their team…. Sit goes all the way up from little kids to the pros.
 
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Weezer said:
I hate that BHH hit the portal, but he was stupid to look for guaranteed playing time. Get out there and earn it. Can't blame CRB for not making promises like that. Team is more important than one player. I think BHH could have been a big contributor next year if he was willing to put in the work. In the end, I think he hurt himself with this move.

KC is who we'll miss the most, but can't blame a kid for jumping to the NBA.

We've got 4 holes to fill. Hopefully we get Julian Phillips. Need to look to the portal for another PG. Would love a dynamic big. We'll see what happens. Hopefully CRB can attract some players. Honestly, after this past season, I thought we would get more attention from recruits and portal guys than we have thus far.
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
They can be programmed to cheat..and even make it look better.
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The difficulty it would take for a team, or conference on behalf of a team, to cheat/hack a technology like this would be vastly greater than the difficulty right now for a human ref to become corrupt. Biases can be programmed into tech, there’s already examples of this in the real world, but biases also can’t be hidden if an audit is performed, which they should be regularly.

All that to be said, I don’t want technology to take over all aspects of a refs job, but assistance technology should absolutely be incorporated. Look at the USFL this year. They will be testing out having chips in footballs this year and all down and distance, ball spotting, etc will be done by this technology. If it works out well, you’ll see it in the NFL sooner than later.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
You and your f'n robots..AI is going to destroy humanity according to many futurists..and you can't wait for it..

Edit: That is obviously not what I believe is going to happen since I believe in Jesus, but for you guys that are unbelievers, it seems you would be more...uhmm..wary of AI.
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AI is terrifying if you know anything about it.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
I went back and looked for the post that linked the Penn State rapist article you guys were talking about earlier and I can't find it. Do any of you guys know where it went? I went all the way back in this thread to during the game last night, and it is not in the OT thread either..🤷‍♂️
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Tony Basilio has a piece on it in his blog today but I don't know if it's the whole article
 
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Devo182 said:
My question is if "great" or perfect refs actually even exist or are they a figment of our imagination...like hiring the perfect coach. The NFL has awful reffing too (just ask Saints fans) and those are supposed to be the best in the world. But they'll make mistakes. Tons of them. That's human reffing for you. So what expectation do we have for refs? Are they realistic considering human limitations to perceiving movement?

I think fans will always be mad at refs. Every league, every sport, every nation. They'll never be perfect or even close. That doesn't prove bias or cheating though either. Large scale reviews would do such and afaik most major sports all take ref reviews seriously...it is vital to the image of every league after all.
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The NFL refs have had some awful calls, but looking at the whole body of work, they're pretty good. Especially compared to sec refs.
 
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