War in Ukraine

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rekinhavoc said:
Mocked as ‘Rubble’ by Biden, Russia’s Ruble Comes Roaring Back

"Things looked dire enough that U.S. President Joe Biden said the ruble had been reduced to “rubble.”
Now, though, it sure hasn’t. The ruble has surged all the way back to where it was before Putin invaded Ukraine, extending its recent rally to trade as strong as 74.2625 per dollar in early Moscow trade on Thursday."
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You do realize it's being artificially propped up right now right?
 
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volfanhill said:
You do realize it's being artificially propped up right now right?
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"What’s become clear is that despite an incredibly wide-ranging package of sanctions on the Russian government and its oligarchs, and an exodus of foreign businesses, the actions are largely toothless if foreigners keep guzzling Russian oil and natural gas -- supporting the ruble by stocking Putin’s coffers."

READ: Japan Won’t Ban Russian Coal Imports, Mainichi Says

"Even as Russia remains mostly cut off otherwise from the global economy, Bloomberg Economics expects the country will earn nearly $321 billion from energy exports this year, up more than a third from 2021."
 
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I don't downplay the depth of incompetence from the EU and the US...but at some point this economic suicide looks orchestrated....
 
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KB5252 said:
This is what volgr supports. He's propping up the propoganda machine that led it's people to believe this crap. I see very clear, distinct parallels in the attitudes of these Russians to the people of Germany during the Nazi rise to power towards Jews and others.
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Ahh, here we go again...lets fire up the German comparisons. I see very clear is the funniest part of this post. You have yet to get one thing right in this thread, so I doubt you are now seeing very clear on anything. Always fun to see those who support actual Nazi's in Ukraine make German comparisons of Russia. Good grief.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
And yet people will believe this still...I think a large portion of the world population really wants to believe they are in on some big secret that only a "few" know about and the majority is wrong. The intense deflection from the Russian government and their western sock puppet supporters exudes bullsh!t.
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I can absolutely think of three that will and will in fact quote this stupidity as fact 😂
 
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landscapingvol said:
What is your ever changing argument now? First, it was Ukraine was militarized and was threatening Russia which isn’t/wasn’t true. Second, Russia was liberating Ukraine from Nazis killing “ethnic” Russians which is/was debatable at best, lie at worst. Third, NATO was/is instigating a war Russia wants to end but can’t because Ukraine is forbidden from accepting peace talks because the West wants war. That excuse is laughably absurd. Fourth, Russia didn’t/doesn’t target civilians and there are few if any civilian casualties. Again, laughably untrue there hundreds of accounts of civilian deaths. The newest excuse courtesy of our resident apologist is the civilian casualties were perpetrated by the Ukrainians because we armed them and now by default are responsible for the deaths, not the Russians who invaded its neighbor needlessly. When this newest deflection falls apart another excuse will surface: US imperialism, a new undiscovered Ukrainian Nazi brigade, moral decline in the US, climate change, etc.
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At this point, I'm pretty sure you can't read. I never said few if any civilian casualties, I said Russia went in with a strategy to limit civilian casualties as much as possible..

What Cernovich is saying is very clear yet again you try to reframe his words so you can attack it. He is simply saying, Ukraine has committed war crimes (verifiable, this isn't in question), Ukraine is our ally in that we fund and arm them, thus we are morally responsible for their actions.
 
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Here we go again...more fake news from Nexta, yet that won't stop you fools from posting their trash on here daily...
 
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KB5252 said:
Evidence of war crimes committed by Russia are beyond compelling. Real time videos showing the deliberate killing of civilians, hundreds found murdered in areas just vacated by Russian units.

It's time to call the spade what it is. Putin has to go, he surely knows this. The question is does Russia or Russians have a backbone? They must clean their house or they will suffer for decades.
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There is no beyond compelling evidence of Russian war crimes. Stop with this nonsense. As for Russia, they are firmly behind Putin and their biggest worry isn't falling for western war crime propaganda and ejecting Putin out of office but they are afraid Putin will not go far enough and settle for a peace deal that the west will once again not follow. Although, after the heavy sanctions, weapon running and propaganda by the west, I don't see Putin stopping at this point. He is going to finish the job.
 
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volgr said:
There is no beyond compelling evidence of Russian war crimes. Stop with this nonsense. As for Russia, they are firmly behind Putin and their biggest worry isn't falling for western war crime propaganda and ejecting Putin out of office but they are afraid Putin will not go far enough and settle for a peace deal that the west will once again not follow. Although, after the heavy sanctions, weapon running and propaganda by the west, I don't see Putin stopping at this point. He is going to finish the job.
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Russians want it to go further because their state media is pumping out hate nonstop. You don't know whether to **** or wind your watch.
 
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volgr said:
I don't downplay the depth of incompetence from the EU and the US...but at some point this economic suicide looks orchestrated....
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Putin didn't unilaterally invade Ukraine. It's a cabal of western bureaucrats/politicians and Putin that decided this in order to further subjugate their citizenry. So what if a few hundred thousand Russian soldiers and Ukrainians die if the power brokers can get their boots on our necks.
 
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volgr said:
I'm not the one supporting them...would you like to talk about them?
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How many russians with nazi tats you think there are in ukraine right now?

Speaking of hate, how many of our sitting senators or congressmen say **** like the recently deceased Zhirinovsky?

Do you actually know anything at all about Russia or do you just eat Putin's protector of christian values horseshit up like the loathsome pig you are?
 
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volgr said:
Ahh, here we go again...lets fire up the German comparisons. I see very clear is the funniest part of this post. You have yet to get one thing right in this thread, so I doubt you are now seeing very clear on anything. Always fun to see those who support actual Nazi's in Ukraine make German comparisons of Russia. Good grief.
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The post was reaction to the video that was posted with Russians basically using derogatory names for Ukrainians, staying Ukraine should not even exist, they should be wiped out etc. Their attitude toward Ukraine and it's people is very reminiscent of Nazi Germany, but I know it's inconvenient for you to acknowledge that.
 
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apevol said:
How many russians with nazi tats you think there are in ukraine right now?

Speaking of hate, how many of our sitting senators or congressmen say **** like the recently deceased Zhirinovsky?

Do you actually know anything at all about Russia or do you just eat Putin's protector of christian values horseshit up like the loathsome pig you are?
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I oppose Nazi'ism. See how easy that is.
 
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volgr said:
There is no beyond compelling evidence of Russian war crimes. Stop with this nonsense. As for Russia, they are firmly behind Putin and their biggest worry isn't falling for western war crime propaganda and ejecting Putin out of office but they are afraid Putin will not go far enough and settle for a peace deal that the west will once again not follow. Although, after the heavy sanctions, weapon running and propaganda by the west, I don't see Putin stopping at this point. He is going to finish the job.
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If they continue to go further then Russia will decimate their army. Their losses in men and equipment isn't sustainable. They had to regroup and focus the war in the east and south because they had bogged down and were not able to achieve their primary objective of Kiev for Christ sake.
 
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