War in Ukraine

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luthervol said:
You're simply wrong, but I do not expect you to ever realize that.
The debate is pointless, as it was the previous 57 times.
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90% of America was wrong too i guess but YOU were right 😂😂😂 just like you talk about Trump and how millions lined up to get rid of him, they did the exact same thing for Carter
 
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I'll go ahead and predict the rubes justification...<cue the Sarah McLachlan sadz music> what would you do if our sovereign <and you really have to emphasize sovereign here> borders were invaded...
 
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Putin aint playing around...messing with the dollar usually gets leaders whacked sometimes with a bayonet up the backside as Gaddafi found out...will be interesting to see how this plays out
 
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volgr said:
I'll go ahead and predict the rubes justification...<cue the Sarah McLachlan sadz music> what would you do if our sovereign <and you really have to emphasize sovereign here> borders were invaded...
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Do you think you are making some kind of point?
The actions of the Ukrainian soldiers were wrong. They have been condemned by everyone.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Private businesses can do what they want because they have the freedom to do so. Sorry you don’t like it.
Do you believe that the US allows Al-Qeada or ISIS or the KKK to have political parties to run for president?
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Private businesses cannot do whatever they want. We've gone over this before and it's a debate you and others have lost and embarrassed yourself in the process.

So you guys claim Putin is running a totalitarian regime and against everything he does. But when those same tactics are used in Ukraine you guys are okay with it. You applaud it as long as it's your team doing it.

Ethnic Russians in Ukraine are nowhere near the same boat as ISIS or Al-Qaeda. You really went to the extreme there.

However. Ukraine has a party called Svoboda which is an ultranationalist party with racist views. That party in Ukraine would be a better comparison to the KKK.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Let’s face one fact though, what Speer did in keeping any meaningful aramaments production going in 1943 and 1944 was an organizational miracle: of course, considering the amount of slave labor used, he really shouldn’t have escaped the hangman’s noose at Nuremberg
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He was a genius.
 
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hog88 said:
Carter wasn't a moron he just wasn't a good president.
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Democrats even held a super majority during his presidency and still couldn't accomplish anything. It was really his own party that destroyed his presidency.

What's interesting is during his re-election many people in the South still voted for him.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Private businesses cannot do whatever they want. We've gone over this before and it's a debate you and others have lost and embarrassed yourself in the process.

So you guys claim Putin is running a totalitarian regime and against everything he does. But when those same tactics are used in Ukraine you guys are okay with it. You applaud it as long as it's your team doing it.

Ethnic Russians in Ukraine are nowhere near the same boat as ISIS or Al-Qaeda. You really went to the extreme there.

However. Ukraine has a party called Svoboda which is an ultranationalist party with racist views. That party in Ukraine would be a better comparison to the KKK.
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Let me write slower for you so you understand:

Businesses can absolutely do what they want in how they deal with their customers or require their employees to do certain things to work there, etc. This has been settled in court time and time again. You may not like it but it’s reality for both skilled and unskilled workers.

Putin is totalitarian but so what. I didn’t advocate for an invasion of his sovereign county either. I don’t care how Ukraine handles internal strife and terrorists within their own country. They didn’t invade another country, Russia did.
 
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DonjoVol said:
You can include them in that yes. But we still had no business helping to oust a leader that was elected democratically by the people of Ukraine. Which is where the beginning of much of this conflict started.
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The current leader was democratically elected
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Let me write slower for you so you understand:

Businesses can absolutely do what they want in how they deal with their customers or require their employees to do certain things to work there, etc. This has been settled in court time and time again. You may not like it but it’s reality for both skilled and unskilled workers.

Putin is totalitarian but so what. I didn’t advocate for an invasion of his sovereign county either. I don’t care how Ukraine handles internal strife and terrorists within their own country. They didn’t invade another country, Russia did.
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Once again you are incorrect. As long as there are federal and local entities mandating what businesses can do then they are NOT free to do WHATEVER they want.
 
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hog88 said:
Carter won 1 southern state.
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I know that and I never said he won more than 1. I said he still had a lot of support here. Which goes against that "southern strategy" myth that democrats and historians resort to when it comes to the decline of support in the democrat party in the south. Carter actually won the 1976 election due to his support in the south.
 
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volgr said:
I'll go ahead and predict the rubes justification...<cue the Sarah McLachlan sadz music> what would you do if our sovereign <and you really have to emphasize sovereign here> borders were invaded...
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I don't think I have ever met someone as openly pro Russian since Bernie Sanders ran for President. You are an insufferable moron who is just trolling the board. What would you do to a force that was invading your country? They are more than justified by their tactics and owe no one an apology. Russia is their to take their lands and deserve everything that happens to them.
 
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DonjoVol said:
So was Yanukovych. So you agree that the U.S. should not have been trying to help oust him in 2013? We should have minded our own business right? He was democratically elected and we should have left Ukraine alone.
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US and Russia both got involved then because of politics. Both can be wrong and STILL Russia is in the wrong here because they invaded a sovereign country and are killing innocents as the aggressor
 
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DonjoVol said:
I know that and I never said he won more than 1. I said he still had a lot of support here. Which goes against that "southern strategy" myth that democrats and historians resort to when it comes to the decline of support in the democrat party in the south. Carter actually won the 1976 election due to his support in the south.
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And his racist campaign in Georgia early on which Luther always dismisses
 
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volgr said:
I'll admit when I'm wrong, which doesnt happen often, but while I thought Russia would he fine in the long run and the Ruble would recover, I never thought it would recover as fast as it has...
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Window dressing. Surely you know better. Their economy is in trouble.
 
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