War in Ukraine

I’ll be blunt with you, you aren’t very bright. I am sure you will be in tears to learn the Chinese got involved in the Korean and Vietnam Wars as well as the Russians. I am sure you will be even more heartbroken to learn that the Iraqis and Afghans were using Russian made weapons against the US in both wars….it’s evil
You call me not very bright and yet here you are, aligning yourself with the same (provably evil side) that subjected our country and our world to a "pandemic" and that months ago was being crucified by many on here for their corruption in Ukraine?

I'm the not very bright one, yet your total knowledge of world events seems to boil down to what to what CNN tells you? Boy, that's... something.
 
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And yet we attempt to feed the area with more weapons. We are not giving them an incentive to negotiate reasonably. They are facing the inevitable and NATO is just encouraging them to fight to the very last drop of Ukrainian blood.

I know, right? Why won’t they just roll over and die yet? If only the Russians could withdraw, it’s a shame these innocent people won’t quit fighting for their homeland, amirite?
 
I've been asking how picking sides in this regional conflict improves the life of the average American, they cant answer. Luther has a generic beauty queen type answer, it makes the world more safe. In fact, our picking sides is making us less safe AND will cause the average American MORE financial hardship.
Exactly. We're told Russia is a big bad threat from the same people that will tell us small helpless Ukraine is kicking their ass. Certainly, logically, the US defense system is stronger than Ukraine, yes? So what need do we have to be involved, if they're kicking so much ass? What threat does Russia actually pose?

And what does Ukraine send to us that is so vital, except government corruption and cushy jobs for Romneys, Bidens, and Pelosis?
 
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You call me not very bright and yet here you are, aligning yourself with the same (provably evil side) that subjected our country and our world to a "pandemic" and that months ago was being crucified by many on here for their corruption in Ukraine?

I'm the not very bright one, yet your total knowledge of world events seems to boil down to what to what CNN tells you? Boy, that's... something.

Let me let you in on a little secret…I don’t watch CNN and didn’t wear a mask. Reality showed that Corona was overblown just like reality is showing you that Russia invaded Ukraine. I know reality can be hard
 
Let me let you in on a little secret…I don’t watch CNN and didn’t wear a mask. Reality showed that Corona was overblown just like reality is showing you that Russia invaded Ukraine. I know reality can be hard
And yet you're right here parroting the same line they do over this conflict. That doesn't cause you to question anything?

Rich to imply that I am the one that doesn't think critically. Very rich.
 
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The South wasnt allowed self determination. American Indians werent allowed self determination. Welcome to the real world. You are allowed self determination, if you can protect it.
Way to not answer the question.
Do you believe Ukraine should be allowed self determination?
 
The US is encouraging death by sending weapons to a nation invaded by Russia? That’s some genius level critical thinking on your part, I don’t know how you get out of bed in the morning 😂

By doing so the US is only dragging out the inevitable. Thus causing more unnecessary death and desteuction. Which is what some of us have been saying for weeks. Wake up and smell reality.
 
And yet you're right here parroting the same line they do over this conflict. That doesn't cause you to question anything?

Rich to imply that I am the one that doesn't think critically. Very rich.

“Parroting” equals not wanting innocent people to die over a made up reason to invade much like the US in Iraq. I guess I am guilty then
 
I never said it wasn’t our responsibility to negotiate peace. If the US chooses to then we may, it’s Ukraine’s responsibility to accept it. No one is stopping them from accepting anything, just like no one is stopping Russia from withdrawing except in your feeble imagination

Yeah, thats the problem. You either dont know or deny that Zelensky is a US puppet. He wont accet any ceasefire or surrender without our blessing.
 
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By doing so the US is only dragging out the inevitable. Thus causing more unnecessary death and desteuction. Which is what some of us have been saying for weeks. Wake up and smell reality.

I know they should just lay down and die. If only conquered peoples would just learn their place in the great global reset by the West? I can’t understand why they wouldn’t want to be under the control of a nation that killed millions of them 70 years ago
 
“Parroting” equals not wanting innocent people to die over a made up reason to invade much like the US in Iraq. I guess I am guilty then
And yet, again, here is you, pro-arming those innocent people so they get turned into combatants and slaughtered. Did you know the US invasion of Iraq led to the deaths of tens of thousands of Iraqi innocents? As sad as it is, Ukraine has had around a thousand civilian deaths, IF you can trust their official numbers. Russia could have leveled entire cities if they wanted to, but they aren't. Do you ever ask why?

And also again, if your goal is protecting innocents, then perhaps you should advocate for US involvement in peace talks instead of blithely implying it isn't the US' job.

You have no moral foundation at all, which is terrifying.
 
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Why don't you guys @Rasputin_Vol @volgr @DonjoVol produce evidence that Donbas residents wanted to secede from Ukraine? And explain why you continue to push a Nazi line, and why Russia may invade sovereign countries with strawman security concerns but Ukraine is to be demilitarized and have no security?

I've provided my rationale, in polls - even in separatist held areas of Donbas - that a majority of Donbas citizens wish to remain Ukrainian citizens. That even were Azov actual, Hitler-resurrecting Nazis (and they aren't), they are a force of 900 in a UAF military of 460,000 led by a Jew. And Russia has never been in, nor will be in danger from a Ukrainian attack whether remaining in Russian orbit, or Westernizing, or even joining NATO. Nor are they in danger of attack from NATO unless attacking a NATO member. And I've msged you on those posts, inviting challenge which you ignore.

Where's the proof, the basis, for your rationale?
 
Yep. Once de-nazification and de-militarization is complete in the parts Russia wants to partition, it wont be "hard to hold" as some here are predicting.
And I will be eagerly waiting for the weeping and gnashing of teeth once the process of partitioning Ukraine begins... I will want to hear and see the comments that start flying around when what I think is going to happen becomes obvious. I want to hear and see comments about "invasion" and "occupier" at that point just as much as I am hearing it now.
 
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By doing so the US is only dragging out the inevitable. Thus causing more unnecessary death and desteuction. Which is what some of us have been saying for weeks. Wake up and smell reality.
Our government cares about profiting off of this war more than anything. The US defense department along with many politicians are going to make large sums of money. They are happy to delay the inevitable.
 
What do all three of those examples have in common? They were conquered by a superior foe, except in your imagination where Ukraine was threatening Russia. It’s a good thing the Azov battalion wasn’t allowed to enter Russia. It would have been a replay of the Mongols.

Ukraine is being conquered by a superior foe. They had the chance to self determinate, they chose to knowingly piss off their superior neighbor. Now they lost the ability to self determinate. Thems the brakes.
 
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Has anyone asked today why is Russia still lead negotiators in an Iran Nuclear deal? This almost seems to be a logical question unless you are folding your head through your ass.

Nonetheless something doesn't pass the sniff test with this WH tough talk.
 
I’ll be blunt with you, you aren’t very bright. I am sure you will be in tears to learn the Chinese got involved in the Korean and Vietnam Wars as well as the Russians. I am sure you will be even more heartbroken to learn that the Iraqis and Afghans were using Russian made weapons against the US in both wars….it’s evil
Non sequitur
 
Our government cares about profiting off of this war more than anything. The US defense department along with many politicians are going to make large sums of money. They are happy to delay the inevitable.
Of course they are.

It blows my mind that there are people here tying their own morals, wills, and brains to that of American politicians and the corporate/government machine and asking no questions at all.
 
Yeah, thats the problem. You either dont know or deny that Zelensky is a US puppet. He wont accet any ceasefire or surrender without our blessing.

List all the nations controlled by US puppets and if by “puppet” you mean given US aid then you are sorely mistaken. Ukraine isn’t even the top 10 OC US aid recipients, many of the nations receiving US aid wouldn’t piss on us if we were on fire much less bend to the knee of US interests.
 
List all the nations controlled by US puppets and if by “puppet” you mean given US aid then you are sorely mistaken. Ukraine isn’t even the top 10 OC US aid recipients, many of the nations receiving US aid wouldn’t piss on us if we were on fire much less bend to the knee of US interests.
Since when did open financial trails solely indicate "puppet" status? Do you believe there is an American deep state, or if that is too conspiritard for you, do you believe we operate covertly abroad?

Again, no critical thinking present from you, since that particular thing resonates with you.
 
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