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UTProf said:
No, I absolutely agree with you that the athletes aren't in the same universe. I'm also telling you why they're not. IDK why that's a problem for a few of you. Women are always going to be a few seconds slower or jump a little lower. However, the reason there's such disparity is because there's no investment. Put it to you another way... The young men we watch are close to hitting their ceilings as athletes and part of what makes college fun to watch is watching them hit it. The young women that we watch are nowhere close to where they should be - a program like Summitt's got them very close to that but even then it was her and UCONN with a ton of room to grow even within those programs. THAT is the difference. The quality of women's sports could be soooo much higher than it is.
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Hold up... are you saying that the difference in performance between men & women is because of the difference in level of investment in their training (in other words if you trained a man/boy and a woman/girl exactly the same their measurable would be the same?? If so, I vehemently disagree.
 
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Rizzo924 said:
Hold up... are you saying that the difference in performance between men & women is because of the difference in level of investment in their training (in other words if you trained a man/boy and a woman/girl exactly the same their measurable would be the same?? If so, I vehemently disagree.
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Sigh. No. I'm not comparing men and women at all. I'm saying that we haven't invested in girls and women but we have invested in boys and men. The quality of female athletes would rise with investment.
 
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UTProf said:
FWIW, when I say investment I'm not talking strictly money.
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My point is, if 80% of boys are interested in Sports and participate, and 20% of girls are interested in Sports and participate and I have $X to spend on athletics, do we split X 50/50 and call that gender equity? That’s what Title IX has done and part of that has been disastrous, in particular for non revenue generating mens sports.
 
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Just imagining this being us and not Villanova in the Elite Eight. I'm fine.

I'm not fine.

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GoBigOrange86 said:
Just imagining this being us and not Villanova in the Elite Eight. I'm fine.

I'm not fine.

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My perspective has changed. Sucks we lost but I feel the NCAA tournament is toughest tourney in college sports. However, it’s a lot easier to move along and go to our Top Ranked Baseball team.

And if we don’t win the CWS, oh well, time to watch a potential top 10 football team. This is fun!!
 
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UTMVol76 said:
My point is, if 80% of boys are interested in Sports and participate, and 20% of girls are interested in Sports and participate and I have $X to spend on athletics, do we split X 50/50 and call that gender equity? That’s what Title IX has done and part of that has been disastrous, in particular for non revenue generating mens sports.
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That's really an entirely different issue but what's hurt men's non-revenue sports is the fact that football reserved scholarships when the NCAA first dealt with title 9. Basketball did too but since both men and women play basketball that offsets. The men shouldn't be able to steal from the women's allotment simply because they chose to spend most of their scholarships on one sport. The solution is to expand the allotment for both sides. The men can then use theirs to fund baseball, wrestling and hockey and the women can spend theirs.
 
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