Butthurt Bama Fan on UT Recruiting

[VolunteerCeltic]

Lots of discussion about that.

Here's how I would structure an NIL deal to a particular athlete. His deliverables would include having a name, image, and/or likeness value without a particular market (geographic region). You would probably have to offer some kind of minimum "retainer" that prevented the athlete from signing with another group for some specified period and terms. So what you would see is maybe a $300K annual payment (like he's apparently getting now) with opportunities to represent the client companies working with Spyre IF your NIL value warrants it. Pretty obviously if he doesn't play for UT and doesn't perform well then the variable pay won't be there.

I don't think that Spyre is handing out money and saying "we hope you consider playing at UT". I think they have provided themselves with some contractual protection that goes well beyond that.

I would think they would have a contract that is signed by both parties that outlines expectations for monetary payments. But, there needs to be an oversite of the whole NIL process

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

I’m pulling for Texas so hard right now .

Yeah, even though we have secured a great QB, I really don't want to see the Manning name on the back of a UGA jersey.

 

[esarmstrong]

NIL is the best way to drive corruption out of College Athletics. Paying players under the table was considered the norm. Was every player getting a cut from every program?

Remember the fiasco regarding Cam Newton? He, or someone in his family/posse received something approaching a half-million from Auburn, according to a coach from Mississippi State. The whole thing sounded like Cam Newton or someone in his family was paid by Mississippi State and then Auburn outbid them. Ah, the good ole' days.

 

[deezvols]

He forgot “legally”. They are likely still the leaders in the “illegal” category of payments.

 

[cobbwebb0710]

That was pretty funny. I especially liked the parable of Bear Bryant and the paid-off recruit. Such important lessons to learn from the Gospel According to Bear

That was my favorite part. Somebody needs to tell these clowns that Dodge Chargers and $1,000 handshakes are a thing of the past.
We’ve moved on to G wagons and million$!
GBO!!

 

[cobbwebb0710]

Very soon this will be old news. It’s high school free agency and all will be forgotten when Arch inks his $10 million deal.
GBO!!

 

[DaddyChad]

That was my favorite part. Somebody needs to tell these clowns that Dodge Chargers and $1,000 handshakes are a thing of the past.
We’ve moved on to G wagons and million$!
GBO!!

But Tennessee has no money!!! I’ve been told that by so many of our fans that know everything!

 

[DaddyChad]

Very soon this will be old news. It’s high school free agency and all will be forgotten when Arch inks his $10 million deal.
GBO!!

Likely you’re right. I think this is what you’re going to see from here on out especially for QBs.

 

[sjt18]

I would think they would have a contract that is signed by both parties that outlines expectations for monetary payments. But, there needs to be an oversite of the whole NIL process

I am unsure which would be worse. The NCAA's job was to provide oversight and they never did anything but punish those who self-policed or got caught. If they didn't cause corruption then they at least facilitated.

Hate to say it because I LOATH federal intervention in almost everything... but about the only way to have that oversight in a way that is somewhat even handed is to create a charter by federal law like that of the NFL.... then you are talking about a pretty massive and expensive bureaucracy and then the left's imposition of their notion of "fairness" on everything.

 

[Vol865]

I guess that would make Bama #2. Sad considering how long they've been paying players. We're relatively new to this.

 

[SpookyAction]

Bama has a infrastructure like no other in college football... That network stretches out like a spiderweb all over the state.

Bear Bryant’s Son’s Reinsurance Fortune Helps Power Alabama Football

This story tells you everything you need to know about the money engine behind Bama football. Read between the lines.

 

[Iamtoooldforthis]

The dirtiest program since SMU has the audacity to complain. This is hilarious.

 

[OH-Vol]

Didn't Bryce Young set this precedent?

 

[dobre_shunka]

Albert Means didn't get the cash but Bama booster (and convicted federal money launderer) Logan Young shelled out $150,000 to a Mempis HS coach to get Means to sign with Bama.

It's okay to make it rain cash on coaches but not players?

 

[OffTackleVol]

The dirtiest program since SMU has the audacity to complain. This is hilarious.

No doubt the dirtiest program since SMU. Bama was staring down "the barrel of a gun" for sure in the late 90's and early 2000's. And it just wasn't for Albert Means either.......

 

[GBOplayer]

Alabama Football: Tennessee Vols now No. 1 – in buying players

The NIL has completely changed college football recruiting and how programs are built...I guess this is what it takes to land 5 star QBs now

 

[Carp]

If Arch Manning commits to Bama (fingers crossed he doesn't) this writer will tear an ACL back tracking so fast.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

This article has already been given a thread for discussion (look for the "Butthurt Bama Fan" thread). Maybe just merge this with that.

 

[UT_Tix79]

We offered him $8 million, while I’m glad we got him, I do hate this overall. NIL is supposed to be so players can earn from their Name, Image, and Likeness. Not to be used to “purchase” players.

If it works for us, I’m more ok with it, but I just can’t get my head around offering a kid who hasn’t even stepped on campus yet, $8 million dollars in prearranged funding

 

[dovervolz]

We offered him $8 million, while I’m glad we got him, I do hate this overall. NIL is supposed to be so players can earn from their Name, Image, and Likeness. Not to be used to “purchase” players.

If it works for us, I’m more ok with it, but I just can’t get my head around offering a kid who hasn’t even stepped on campus yet, $8 million dollars in prearranged funding

If UT didn't ante-up some body else would have. I'd just as soon be us than them.

 

[TheVolsFrog]

That's the funny part about this. Anybody with a clue knows what has been happening in recruiting for 40 years. It's comical that it's now an issue for some people AFTER a legal avenue has opened up for everybody to do the same thing.

 

[Carp]

We offered him $8 million, while I’m glad we got him, I do hate this overall. NIL is supposed to be so players can earn from their Name, Image, and Likeness. Not to be used to “purchase” players.

If it works for us, I’m more ok with it, but I just can’t get my head around offering a kid who hasn’t even stepped on campus yet, $8 million dollars in prearranged funding

But that is exactly what is happening. Spyre is simply a sports marketing firm and part of their business is connecting players with opportunities to earn money from NIL.


You say they are "purchasing players." I say they are investing in players. Elite recruits like Nico draw other elite recruits. Those elite recruits collectively make UT football better. And the better UT football is, the more money Spyre stands to make.

 

[TheVolsFrog]

Very soon this will be old news. It’s high school free agency and all will be forgotten when Arch inks his $10 million deal.
GBO!!

He probably could get it since he has the advantaging of his last name being Manning. Him doing commercials with his family will probably a thing.

 

[VolBallGuy]

This is why I don’t even like going to Hoover for the tourney. A whole other level of idiocy down there.

 

[VolBallGuy]

So to summarize:
It is bad business to be an intelligent first mover when a legitimate opportunity comes along. This is because Alabama doesn’t need to measure itself against anyone, and a few players who Bear Bryant (who definitely cleaned up his act long before coaching Bama…wink…wink) unethically paid quit on him. I must say this is damn fine journalism for an Alabama native.