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UTK said:
I dunno how you all can stomach watching the tourney still after UT gets bounced. I never could. 🤣. But I'll pull for either St. Peter's or Michigan to win it all.
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It's March Madness...it's the greatest.

We missed it many, many years growing up. It's still great...
 
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BigOrange15 said:
I agree, Barnes IS a great coach and any calls for his firing or even for his seat to be hot here are premature imo. Unless you have a sure fire upgrade lined up, you don't make that move. However...

Question: Do you think that Barnes has underperformed in March over the course of his career? It's certainly not a small sample size.
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I don't think this is a fair question. March is a very random time when it comes to matchups and the question always comes down to one game. You can say that well, this or that is a terrible loss but the truth is that every team in the tourney deserved to be there and usually about 5-10 more teams that are shunted over to the NIT did too. Look at this way... How many NIT teams own victories over teams still playing? Texas AM just beat the fire out of Arkansas who had the easiest path to a Sweet 16 of any seed. Are they a better team? Michigan is about like TAMU or Ark in that under the right circumstances they're going to win the game in front of them even if it's against a team that we all think is better than them if the game is played 100 times. Well, the right circumstances happened.

Barnes was about 50-50 against ranked teams this year and the team showed real weakness away from home (I think that was due to the freshmen just not being as confident as they will be after playing more). That's exactly what we got in the tourney. A quality win and a quality loss. There is a level of parity in men's basketball that doesn't exist in most other sports. I think that's what's giving folks trouble. Any team can win the matchups on the right day.
 
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UTProf said:
I don't think this is a fair question. March is a very random time when it comes to matchups and the question always comes down to one game. You can say that well, this or that is a terrible loss but the truth is that every team in the tourney deserved to be there and usually about 5-10 more teams that are shunted over to the NIT did too. Look at this way... How many NIT teams own victories over teams still playing? Texas AM just beat the fire out of Arkansas who had the easiest path to a Sweet 16 of any seed. Are they a better team? Michigan is about like TAMU or Ark in that under the right circumstances they're going to win the game in front of them even if it's against a team that we all think is better than them if the game is played 100 times. Well, the right circumstances happened.

Barnes was about 50-50 against ranked teams this year and the team showed real weakness away from home (I think that was due to the freshmen just not being as confident as they will be after playing more). That's exactly what we got in the tourney. A quality win and a quality loss. There is a level of parity in men's basketball that doesn't exist in most other sports. I think that's what's giving folks trouble. Any team can win the matchups on the right day.
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Yep, just ask Kentucky.
 
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Revived2002 said:
A friend asked me for things to do in Nashville

Been a while since I was there

What should I tell him?
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Preds game if he can (funnest thing to do in Nash bar none), 5th and Broadway (swanky food court and shops) for dinner since so close. Desano’s Pizzeria for chill dinner great pizza. Or if want to spend some money… drinks at Patterson House then 5th and Taylor in Germantown (sausage biscuit apps and short ribs if on menu). Pinewood Social for brunch. TopGolf if never been to one. Any sort of club or music venue like bluebird or Lindsey). Comedy show at Ryman or Zaney’s) Nashville is fun. Enjoy.
 
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UTK said:
I dunno how you all can stomach watching the tourney still after UT gets bounced. I never could. 🤣. But I'll pull for either St. Peter's or Michigan to win it all.
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Whaaaa. I hope Michigan gets food poisoning and spends the entire next week with an unholy amount of diarrhea.
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
This is why you can’t listen to the talking heads saying there is no difference between a 2-3 seed. Give TN the St Peters/Murray St 1st/2nd rd matchup and we cruise. Give TN the Cal St Fullerton/Michigan St matchup and we move on. Instead they sneak a team in to tourney that underachieved after being ranked 6th in preseason polls knowing they can be a fake Cinderella ratings upset potential team if it all clicked. It was a bad matchup. We had no answer for Dickinson who couldn’t miss. Howard coached a great game like he did last year in their big tourney run. Just sucks that we ended up with what normally is a talent matchup you see in sweet 16 we see in rd2. We played well just couldn’t get a 3 to drop and their defense took vescovi completely out and he made bad shot selections in frustration.
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^^This x100. No one is going to pay attention but this is the 100 percent truth of what just happened.
 
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engineerVOL said:
Preds game if he can (funnest thing to do in Nash bar none), 5th and Broadway (swanky food court and shops) for dinner since so close. Desano’s Pizzeria for chill dinner great pizza. Or if want to spend some money… drinks at Patterson House then 5th and Taylor in Germantown (sausage biscuit apps and short ribs if on menu). Pinewood Social for brunch. TopGolf if never been to one. Any sort of club or music venue like bluebird or Lindsey). Nashville is fun. Enjoy.
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And, if possible and depending on the day or days of visit, I would suggest hitting up the lower broadway honkytonks on a weekday evening as opposed to a fri or Sat night. Traffic and parking are both a nightmare on weekend evenings now. The venue directly across from Bridgestone facing broad has some good eateries and with the weather getting warmer, there will be lots of good music on the skydeck generally on the weekend nights.
 
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OrangenSC said:
I was listening to usce pregame on Friday and they were talking about our gaudy numbers, especially on offense. They didn't come right out and say it, but they implied we weren't as good offensively as it looks because of who we've played. They said they've played a much tougher schedule, so...

Now they know.
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They beat Texas 2 of 3, but our pitching was phenomenal as well. We have talent everywhere.
 
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OrangenSC said:
He made a comment in his post-game that got my attention. Something to the affect, "this school deserves a chance to have more success...it's been a blessing for me to coach here."
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Honestly would not be surprised. Barnes knows there is so much more to life than basketball, and I am sure he hears the discussion about his post season record.
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
This is why you can’t listen to the talking heads saying there is no difference between a 2-3 seed. Give TN the St Peters/Murray St 1st/2nd rd matchup and we cruise. Give TN the Cal St Fullerton/Michigan St matchup and we move on. Instead they sneak a team in to tourney that underachieved after being ranked 6th in preseason polls knowing they can be a fake Cinderella ratings upset potential team if it all clicked. It was a bad matchup. We had no answer for Dickinson who couldn’t miss. Howard coached a great game like he did last year in their big tourney run. Just sucks that we ended up with what normally is a talent matchup you see in sweet 16 we see in rd2. We played well just couldn’t get a 3 to drop and their defense took vescovi completely out and he made bad shot selections in frustration.
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Good chance we would have lost one of those games and the narrative would have been why do we always have to play the hot Cinderella team…. Michigan had lost 4 out of its last 7 games and was without its starting point guard….. we shouldn’t have lost that game.
 
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VolGee4 said:
Honestly would not be surprised. Barnes knows there is so much more to life than basketball, and I am sure he hears the discussion about his post season record.
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He might be ready to hang it up but I don’t think Barnes seems like the kind of person that would be that sensitive to that kind of talk.
 
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Devo182 said:
Oof. Who all is out?

The upside is this squad, even the B or C squad, has played up to competition recently. Hopefully they can do so again.
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Steffen and Turner, potentially. Aaronson. McKennie.

I thought Reyna was going to be out, but apparently he got a call up, so I guess he’s ok? There were a couple others that were questionable but also got call ups, so they should be fine.

It’s not as bad as it looked a week and a half ago.
 
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Dudley Smith said:
The odd thing about Barnes is that, from roughly 2002-2008 he was considered a great NCAA tournament coach, going to the Sweet 16 and beyond 5 out of 7 seasons, with one FF and two EE’s. Then starting with the 2008-2009 season we get the long 1 in 10 stat we keep seeing. Not sure what changed.
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So what you're saying is people are cherry picking their stats.
 
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volbeast33 said:
He might be ready to hang it up but I don’t think Barnes seems like the kind of person that would be that sensitive to that kind of talk.
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I agree about him personally. But if he thinks it has started to effect his players, then it’s a little different. I actually think he loved his team this year and seemed to take a different approach. He was quick to step aside at the SECT trophy presentation and clearly said post game it’s all about the players. If he were 57, he wouldn’t care. But he’s coached a long time.
 
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