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Nuctech777 said:
We have no Q2 or lower losses, KY has 1 Q2 loss. We have the same amount of losses as them, and the same number of Q1 wins as them. Explain why they should be above us.
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Q2-Q4 teams aren't who you face in the tourney fwiw. I find that more of a thing at the bubble discussion anyway. Not a discussion I typically here for top seeds. People care if you can play up to competition, not if you'll play down...as that is a moot point with no "down" teams in it.


If we are talking UK (not sure why, because they are a top 2-seed...not the bottom 2-seed) they are a number of spots ahead on NET rankings. Also ahead on KenPom. And TeamRankings. Far behind on luck rankings. Margins...

You won't find any bracket predictor, nor metric site, that had us above them. And these are analytical, not subjective sites.

Just give it up making an argument against Kentucky. We should be trying to argue against maybe a Duke. Maybe a Purdue. UK started too far ahead of us. The committee isn't making kneejerk reactions over 1 game.
 
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Maxwell865 said:
Lunardi literally said that he doesn’t think we will pass Duke for a 2 seed because they are Duke… makes no sense.

Also the “pecking order” isn’t true considering we’ve been ahead of Auburn in the NET rankings for a couple of weeks now.
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We'd beat Duke by 10. They have absolutely folded in big games the last two Saturdays. Couldn't beat their biggest rival in Coack K's last home game, couldn't beat the #7 seed for the championship in the worst ACC field of my lifetime.
 
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jakez4ut said:
Tennessee : we're 4-1 against teams you have rated 2,5 & 6. We have wins over probable 4 seed, two 6 seeds, a 7 seed, 2 wins vs another 10-12 seed...strength of schedule is top 10,we have a top 3 defense, finished 2nd in the the season, won the conference tourney...

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How you're playing lately is supposed to factor in as well. Tennessee has won 7 in a row and 12 of their last 13.
 
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jakez4ut said:
According to lunardi, who says head to head didn't matter,then what is the point of playing the games if the results are predestined based on whatever analytics say?

Cause I got scoreboards that say we're better.😉
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So are we behind Texas?

GAMES matter...just because it is "head to head" doesn't add value.

Even if you believe you have a leg up on a specific team, specific matchups aren't relevant when you each team is facing a random set of teams in the tournament.

People have to look at this in a much more broad way. There are 68 teams at play and a mikkion different combinations. H2H matchups aren't that meantingful (though yes the wins and losses still matter a ton...but not the H2H attribute itself).
 
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Kristy* said:
How you're playing lately is supposed to factor in as well. Tennessee has won 7 in a row and 12 of their last 13.
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Agreed there. Do they still do that? I know "last 10" used to be a metric. Hopefully still is, but I'm not aware. Maybe it is baked into NET rankings. Or maybe the oldheads argued they should be more like CFB and make the entire regular season matter equally. I think recency should matter to a degree. We've played great as of late and that should matter.
 
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