Kellie Harper discussion/debate thread [merged]

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Darth_Vol said:
Does anyone think LSU had the second most talent in the SEC? For reference, they were picked to finish 8th in the SEC. Now they're 8th in the COUNTRY.

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Who do you think has the second most talent in the SEC?
 
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Darth_Vol said:
Does anyone think LSU had the second most talent in the SEC? For reference, they were picked to finish 8th in the SEC. Now they're 8th in the COUNTRY.

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Who, among the coaches that were available, should have been hired instead of Kellie?
 
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youcancallmeAl said:
Who, among the coaches that were available, should have been hired instead of Kellie?
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Well LSU showed what can happen when you hire a proven championship coach by spending the money. We hired a former Lady Vol player, which seems to be what’s required to coach here.
we all love our current coach and wish for great success, but UT took the easy way when replacing the former coach. Maybe it will work out, 3rd place isn’t awful.
 
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Not sure this is the game I'd use to argue the value of a high dollar coach. What did Kim do? A+ on having them ready to go early, but then she watched (through bizarrely over made up eyes) while they completely fell apart the second half, especially against the press. Coach Money was one missed bunny away from blowing the game and for all her facial mugging and sideline pranciing for the cameras, she seemed completely powerless to stop it. Pretty wide consensus that Kellie thoroughly outcoached her the second half.
 
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vettefool said:
Well LSU showed what can happen when you hire a proven championship coach by spending the money. We hired a former Lady Vol player, which seems to be what’s required to coach here.
we all love our current coach and wish for great success, but UT took the easy way when replacing the former coach. Maybe it will work out, 3rd place isn’t awful.
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Let's not even talk about the key injuries this team suffered during the season. That would defeat the narrative that you are trying to invent.
 
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vettefool said:
Well LSU showed what can happen when you hire a proven championship coach by spending the money. We hired a former Lady Vol player, which seems to be what’s required to coach here.
we all love our current coach and wish for great success, but UT took the easy way when replacing the former coach. Maybe it will work out, 3rd place isn’t awful.
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Mulkey is a great coach but Fargas left her a stacked roster. These super seniors went 21-10 as juniors and were already excellent defenders and battle tested in the SEC. Mulkey knows she walked into an excellent situation. She has been telling folks to enjoy this team because she knows she has her work cut out for her next season with a complete roster overhaul.
 
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Volfan2012 said:
Not like this and move on we know your agenda I don't care to be a part of it.
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What’s my agenda? Stating there comes a time as a fan we can move from the reasons we lose year after year? We win the games we are supposed to win, lose games we are not supposed to lose and don’t win the games we need to win. So again, what’s my agenda. I’m a fan just like yourself, there’s no code that says we have to agree to cheer on the same University.
 
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Majors said:
What’s my agenda? Stating there comes a time as a fan we can move from the reasons we lose year after year? We win the games we are supposed to win, lose games we are not and don’t win the games we need to win. So again, what’s my agenda. I’m a fan just like yourself, there’s no code that says we have to agree to cheer on the same University.
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Agree with that. However us losing Horston is a much bigger blow,than lsu injury.
 
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Majors said:
What’s my agenda? Stating there comes a time as a fan we can move from the reasons we lose year after year? We win the games we are supposed to win, lose games we are not and don’t win the games we need to win. So again, what’s my agenda. I’m a fan just like yourself, there’s no code that says we have to agree to cheer on the same University.
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You know what it is you don't like Coach Harper have already mentioned her husband should be fired and you continually post on what has been a successful coaching tenure after the last three seasons of Holly and the culture problems. You continually try to post to what others say just to start an argument of the negative way you see the program now and for the future. I don't like to continually associate with anyone that has such negative views of the program. Of course you have a right to post it, but I don't care to be a part of it. I am totally 100 percent on board with what Coach Harper has done and is doing and think it was a great hire. I will continue to believe this until I have a reason not to and have absolutely none right now or for the foreseeable future. Anyone that thinks losing your sixth man and your best player and also your second best player for half a season plus a key player not playing at all yet the team finishes third in the toughest league in the nation as rated by NET is normal injuries then what more can I say to them except post what you like, but leave me out of it.
 
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Volfan2012 said:
You know what it is you don't like Coach Harper have already mentioned her husband should be fired and you continually post on what has been a successful coaching tenure after the last three seasons of Holly and the culture problems. You continually try to post to what others say just to start an argument of the negative way you see the program now and for the future. I don't like to continually associate with anyone that has such negative views of the program. Of course you have a right to post it, but I don't care to be a part of it. I am totally 100 percent on board with what Coach Harper has done and is doing and think it was a great hire. I will continue to believe this until I have a reason not to and have absolutely none right now or for the foreseeable future. Anyone that thinks losing your sixth man and your best player and also your second best player for half a season plus a key player not playing at all yet the team finishes third in the toughest league in the nation as rated by NET is normal injuries then what more can I say to them except post what you like, but leave me out of it.
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Yes, I've said she needs to move her husband on and get a better coach/recruiter in his place. Keep him on in a lesser capacity but upgrade the bench. My opinion on Harper is she's not a strong Head Coach at this time. Probably a really strong asst coach, but in year 3 on the court and recruiting trail you have show progress and to me it just has not been there. If you agree or disagree is not my intent. Next year will be a defining year for Coach Harper and many here, she'll get to 20 wins but will she be able to win those games that matter?
 
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Memvol44 said:
Agree with that. However us losing Horston is a much bigger blow,than lsu injury.
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I agree and she was the one player you can't lose. But the schedule goes on and next girl/girls up has to be there. Coaching scheme also has be there and like I said a few weeks ago against UConn it lacks hustle/toughness.
 
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Majors said:
Yes, I've said she needs to move her husband on and get a better coach/recruiter in his place. Keep him on in a lesser capacity but upgrade the bench. My opinion on Harper is she's not a strong Head Coach at this time. Probably a really strong asst coach, but in year 3 on the court and recruiting trail you have show progress and to me it just has not been there. If you agree or disagree is not my intent. Next year will be a defining year for Coach Harper and many here, she'll get to 20 wins but will she be able to win those games that matter?
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Maybe you should spend less time complaining and being negative and more time paying attention to the team. To take the stance you have in the face of multiple injuries is laughable. You are the same with softball. And what is the purpose of poo pooing on threads that are not negative? Seems like every time someone says something supportive, you've got to insert an argument to counterbalance towards the negative. What's the purpose in doing that?
 
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Rickster said:
Maybe you should spend less time complaining and being negative and more time paying attention to the team. To take the stance you have in the face of multiple injuries is laughable. You are the same with softball.
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I did, we shot 67 shots and made 21. We shot 18% from 3 and what 60% from the FT line yesterday. Win any of those stat lines and we win the game. Softball, thats a hard stretch as you seem to like my post often.
 
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Majors said:
I did, we shot 67 shots and made 21. We shot 18% from 3 and what 60% from the FT line yesterday. Softball, thats a hard stretch as you seem to like my post often.
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I do agree with some of your softball posts but you have been negative towards the LV basketball team pretty much since you started posting here which hasn't been all that long.
 
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vettefool said:
Well LSU showed what can happen when you hire a proven championship coach by spending the money. We hired a former Lady Vol player, which seems to be what’s required to coach here.
we all love our current coach and wish for great success, but UT took the easy way when replacing the former coach. Maybe it will work out, 3rd place isn’t awful.
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Mulkey has not succeeded yet at LSU beyond what Kellie has done at UT. Sample size is smaller, granted, but the point remains: It remains to be seen how successful Mulkey will be at LSU vs Kellie at UT.

For all those who say that UT took the cheap and easy way out when they hired Kellie, I say PROVE IT. Present strong evidence that 1) a coach of Mulkey's stature was available, and 2) that coach expressed interest in being the head coach at UT at the time.
 
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Rickster said:
I do agree with some of your softball posts but you have been negative towards the LV basketball team pretty much since you started posting here which hasn't been all that long.
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You seem like a level headed poster. I tend to lean on results over feelings. And the longevity of my posting does nothing in changing the outcome of what I/we see. We can discuss casually how we got there and where it's going.
 
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Majors said:
You seem like a level headed poster. I tend to lean on results over feelings. And the longevity of my posting does nothing in changing the outcome of what I/we see. We can discuss casually how we got there and where it's going.
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Well, I prefer to give her the opportunity to get the team going in the right direction. She has done well in that regard. If you need championships to satisfy you, maybe you should not follow a team that is rebuilding.

Every year we have seen team improvement. Every year the players have shown development. This year we climbed to #4 before the final injuries became too great to overcome.

Yet, we still have posters who concentrate on the negative. What’s the point of the negative agenda anyway? It will not affect the team or administration at all. The only thing it does is to setup a controversial exchange between positive and negative posters. Is that the relationship you seek?
 
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Rickster said:
Well, I prefer to give her the opportunity to get the team going in the right direction. She has done well in that regard. If you need championships to satisfy you, maybe you should not follow a team that is rebuilding.

Every year we have seen team improvement. Every year the players have shown development. This year we climbed to #4 before the final injuries became too great to overcome.

Yet, we still have posters who concentrate on the negative. What’s the point of the negative agenda anyway? It will not affect the team or administration at all. The only thing it does is to setup a controversial exchange between positive and negative posters. Is that the relationship you seek?
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That's fair. Where we don't see it the same is we are at 8 losses this year which is on par with her previous two years. There's no negative agenda just not a pollyanna take. You can say it's negative, I can say it's honesty. We are both seeing the same games, we just view the result differently. Said when Hostron got hurt like many here that she is the one player we cannot lose. My stance was because nobody else can take a game over and fill up the points like she can.
 
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