War in Ukraine

[EasternVol]

Meanwhile, crickets...

Large-Scale Bombardment Of Kiev Deemed Imminent As Zelensky Admits "We Are Left Alone" As NATO "Afraid" | ZeroHedge

"We need to talk about a ceasefire with Russia," he added in the video message. Then what followed suggests the brutal reality is finally sinking in that despite years of 'promises' from Washington and the West of a "path to NATO membership" - none of his backers or Ukraine's allies are coming to help:

"We are not afraid to talk to Russia. We are not afraid to talk about security guarantees for our state. We are not afraid to talk about neutral status. But what security guarantees will we have? But which countries will give them?" Zelensky says in response to a prior Russian offer to begin to negotiation "terms of surrender".​

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"We are left alone in defense of our state. Who is ready to fight with us? I don’t see it. Who is ready to guarantee Ukraine’s accession to Nato? Everyone is afraid," added Zelensky.​

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"I asked the 27 leaders of Europe whether Ukraine should be in Nato. I asked directly. They are all afraid. And we are not afraid," he said.​

Shades of Hungary 1956?

 

[lukeneyland]

You seem to be talking about war with both concurrently. We and our allies should be able to contain them, at least Russia, without war.
If it comes to it, NATO is strong militarily. North America and Western Europe > Russia and China. Add in Japan and some ME and SEA and we have a clearer advantage. Israel won't be involved. Now is no time to surrender.

I think you are overestimating the capabilities of Western Europe. This isn’t 1914. Japan is also almost completely demilitarized. And yes I do think that if war were to happen that they’d both hit us together they both have sufficient reason to hate us. I’d rather see us mend relations with the Russians than almost anything

 

[EasternVol]

Even now you criticize everyone but the actual villain here. Truly acting like a POS here man

Who is the actual villian?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I think you are overestimating the capabilities of Western Europe. This isn’t 1914. Japan is also almost completely demilitarized. And yes I do think that if war were to happen that they’d both hit us together they both have sufficient reason to hate us. I’d rather see us mend relations with the Russians than almost anything

Normalize relations with Russia and hang the Manchurian candidates and traitors here in America...

 

[volfanhill]

Who is the actual villian?

His name rhymes with Mutin

 

[zeppelin128]

Chatter on Reddit that a Russian tank column is moving out of Chernobyl toward Kyiv. Ukrainian troops blew up a bridge to slow them down.

 

[Gandalf]

Well first Afghanistan and now Ukraine. That’s 2 countries who have been completely screwed by trusting our assurances in less than a year. Biden is shaping up to be a historic President, replacing Carter in almost every category

 

[EasternVol]

I think you are overestimating the capabilities of Western Europe. This isn’t 1914. Japan is also almost completely demilitarized. And yes I do think that if war were to happen that they’d both hit us together they both have sufficient reason to hate us. I’d rather see us mend relations with the Russians than almost anything

Very well Mr. Chamberlain. Probably you're underestimating Western Europe. They're well equipped and have an extensive military industrial base. Japan is strong too.
But again we should be able to contain Russia without war. Appeasement will lead to further aggression.
I bet you're one of those who doesn't want to play anyone good in football too.

 

[volfanhill]

Well first Afghanistan and now Ukraine. That’s 2 countries who have been completely screwed by trusting our assurances in less than a year. Biden is shaping up to be a historic President, replacing Carter in almost every category

We made assurances? Do you want us to send soldiers? Yes or no.

 

[EasternVol]

His name rhymes with Mutin

Got it. Agree that he's the dirt in the punchbowl.

 

[EasternVol]

Normalize relations with Russia and hang the Manchurian candidates and traitors here in America...

If they get out of Ukraine then normalization of relations would be (edit) something to consider.

 

[zeppelin128]

Well first Afghanistan and now Ukraine. That’s 2 countries who have been completely screwed by trusting our assurances in less than a year. Biden is shaping up to be a historic President, replacing Carter in almost every category

Ukraine should have been made a member of NATO in 2008 when they first requested admission to the alliance.

 

[Burhead]

Chatter on Reddit that a Russian tank column is moving out of Chernobyl toward Kyiv. Ukrainian troops blew up a bridge to slow them down.

Biggest question now what they do? So they have been reluctant to enter the cities like Kyiv and Kharkiv. If they enter Kyiv it’s going to be a bloodbath.

 

[tnmarktx]

Ukraine should have been made a member of NATO in 2008 when they first requested admission to the alliance.

We should've left NATO the moment it was apparent that we were basically going to have to carry the majority of the load.

 

[hUTch2002]

The Biden administration clearly expected this incursion to happen. Just a few days ago, Biden said that he believed it could happen at anytime. So, Biden did not actually believe that the threat of sanctions would deter Putin.

Yes because we can take everything Biden says as gospel.

 

[norrislakevol]

Very well Mr, Chamberlain. Probably you're underestimating Western Europe. They're well equipped and have an extensive military industrial base. Japan is strong too.
But again we should be able to contain Russia without war. Appeasement will lead to further aggression.
I bet you're one of those who doesn't want to play anyone good in football too.

Sort of, yes. England and France (don't laugh) combined could defeat Russia without our help at all.

 

[zeppelin128]

Biggest question now what they do? So they have been reluctant to enter the cities like Kyiv and Kharkiv. If they enter Kyiv it’s going to be a bloodbath.

CNN just now reporting about the Russian tank movement out of Chernobyl.

 

[zeppelin128]

Air raid sirens sounding in Kyiv.

 

[zeppelin128]

Yes because we can take everything Biden says as gospel.

I mean, our intelligence has been pretty accurate about how all of this would play out. Blinken laid it all out at the UN last week, and it is proving to be accurate.

 

[BigSteve09]

Biggest question now what they do? So they have been reluctant to enter the cities like Kyiv and Kharkiv. If they enter Kyiv it’s going to be a bloodbath.

A bloodbath of them murdering Ukrainians?

 

[NorthDallas40]

So this is entertaining?

You mean you aren’t enjoying watching your man crush over run another country?

 

[Gandalf]

Probably inflated, but the Ukranians are fighting hard. If it‘s close to this, the Russian protests will be more numerous and louder.

I seriously doubt that

 

[zeppelin128]

Jill saw John Kerry's idiotic tweet earlier, and said hold my beer:

 

[hUTch2002]

I mean, our intelligence has been pretty accurate about how all of this would play out. Blinken laid it all out at the UN last week, and it is proving to be accurate.

Doesn’t matter. Biden is a chronic liar so blindly believing anything that man says is foolish. BB whines about Trump nonstop but never acknowledges that Biden is every bit the liar he thinks Trump is.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

don’t know how true but I could totally see this

What true leadership looks like.