War in Ukraine

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hmanvolfan said:
Russia Responds to Biden Sanctions: America’s Citizens Will Feel ‘Consequences’
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How are these sanctions helping the European people or the American people?
The Washington Post separately noted that Dmitry Medvedev, deputy chairman of Russia’s security council, “warned that Germany’s decision [to suspend authorizing Russia’s Nord Stream 2 pipeline] means it will ‘very soon’ be paying more than double for natural gas.”
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Biden warned during a speech on Tuesday that Americans would end up paying “costs” for his latest foreign policy decision in responding to the crisis in Ukraine, which critics say he is responsible for creating.
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Rasputin_Vol said:
How are these sanctions helping the European people or the American people?
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Same point I made with all the dingbats beating the war/sanctions drum. Americans are going to pay for any action over there. That point was (predictably) avoided in the name of hurr durr preserve democracy hurr durr guns are free hurr durr Ukraine is important!

Virtually no country is important enough for the average American to have to bear the cost to interfere with them. Period.
 
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ButchPlz said:
Same point I made with all the dingbats beating the war/sanctions drum. Americans are going to pay for any action over there. That point was (predictably) avoided in the name of hurr durr preserve democracy hurr durr guns are free hurr durr Ukraine is important!

Virtually no country is important enough for the average American to have to bear the cost to interfere with them. Period.
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Especially when the American people are under attack right here at home. But these guys want to reignite another Cold War over a country that our POTUS's family has business interests in. That alone should raise the same conflict of interest concerns that these people would have had when the Bush Family attacked Iraq.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Especially when the American people are under attack right here at home. But these guys want to reignite another Cold War over a country that our POTUS's family has business interests in. That alone should raise the same conflict of interest concerns that these people would have had when the Bush Family attacked Iraq.
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This part blows my mind. Out of one side of their mouth they'll say the Biden presidency is illegitimate because of their ties to Ukraine business and Ukrainian oligarchs and shady bribes and hidden money, and out of the other they'll beat the drum for us to go to Ukraine to protect....Ukrainian business and Ukrainian oligarchs funding shady bribes and hidden money. There's no way people can be this stupid.

I just read a little in a book about the US's occupation of Nicaragua- it was purely the deployment of US troops, expenditure of taxpayer dollars, and spilling of American blood for the benefit of a handful of corporate interests. History repeats itself.
 
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Something that I’m curious about.. Is there any scenario where we Would/Could use our pilots in Air to Air encounters the way the Soviets did in Vietnam ?
 
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Septic said:
It's a bad situation, but you understand that our Bill of Rights and Constitution don't apply to them, right?

You didn't imply it was their freedom that was being "torn to shreds", that has a different connotation that that of a country literally being torn to shreds.
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Does the constitution apply to illegals that come over?
 
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happy-go_vol said:
Does the constitution apply to illegals that come over?
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No, but it does apply to non sequiturs and strawman arguments that have no bearing on the conversation. You know, the things that are invoked to make one feel better about themselves despite not having anything of substance to add to the discussion.
 
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ButchPlz said:
I just read a little in a book about the US's occupation of Nicaragua- it was purely the deployment of US troops, expenditure of taxpayer dollars, and spilling of American blood for the benefit of a handful of corporate interests. History repeats itself.
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The Dulles brothers in the 1954 Guatemalan coup that favored their interests in United Fruit Company is the classic example.

Also Smedley Butler wrote about it in the US Marines being used as corporate goons in his book "War Is A Racket".
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
How are these sanctions helping the European people or the American people?
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Inorder to make an Omelet, you have to break some eggs Ras.

I don't mind paying a little more for gas to counter any country (especially the Red Menace) looking to steal land from an ally. I'm sure you feel the same way.
 
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Septic said:
Inorder to make an Omelet, you have to break some eggs Ras.

I don't mind paying a little more for gas to counter any country (especially the Red Menace) looking to steal land from an ally. I'm sure you feel the same way.
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He might, but I don't. I personally don't give a damn about Ukraine and we shouldn't waste a dime of money on them because at the end of the day we are going to let Russia do what they want. Furthermore I would pull all of our troops out of Germany and redistribute them to the US. Germany needs a fire lit under their liberal poon asses.
 
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Oh lawdy.

Chinese media accidentally posts CCP rules on Russia-Ukraine coverage, hint at Taiwan takeover

Wed, February 23, 2022

Chinese news media posted instructions to social platforms about how to approach coverage on Ukraine, including a note of China’s need for Russian "support" with Taiwan.

One outlet appeared to accidentally post guidelines on what should and should not be published, while an editor from another outlet weighed in with guidance on language and approaches that he believed necessary in walking a fine line.

Ming Jinwei, senior editor at Xinhua News Agency, wrote in his WeChat blog about how his outlet needed to walk a tight line on its Ukraine coverage, noting that China "has to back Russia up with emotional and moral support while refraining from treading on the toes of the United States and European Union."

"In the future, China will also need Russia’s understanding and support when wrestling with America to solve the Taiwan issue once and for all," his post read. Ming said that it "doesn’t hurt" to use moderately pro-Russia language.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Especially when the American people are under attack right here at home. But these guys want to reignite another Cold War over a country that our POTUS's family has business interests in. That alone should raise the same conflict of interest concerns that these people would have had when the Bush Family attacked Iraq.
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Impeach Xiden
 
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MontyPython said:
Oh lawdy.

Chinese media accidentally posts CCP rules on Russia-Ukraine coverage, hint at Taiwan takeover

Wed, February 23, 2022

Chinese news media posted instructions to social platforms about how to approach coverage on Ukraine, including a note of China’s need for Russian "support" with Taiwan.

One outlet appeared to accidentally post guidelines on what should and should not be published, while an editor from another outlet weighed in with guidance on language and approaches that he believed necessary in walking a fine line.

Ming Jinwei, senior editor at Xinhua News Agency, wrote in his WeChat blog about how his outlet needed to walk a tight line on its Ukraine coverage, noting that China "has to back Russia up with emotional and moral support while refraining from treading on the toes of the United States and European Union."

"In the future, China will also need Russia’s understanding and support when wrestling with America to solve the Taiwan issue once and for all," his post read. Ming said that it "doesn’t hurt" to use moderately pro-Russia language.
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Please post a link to the source of this story.
 
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MontyPython said:
Oh lawdy.

Chinese media accidentally posts CCP rules on Russia-Ukraine coverage, hint at Taiwan takeover

Wed, February 23, 2022

Chinese news media posted instructions to social platforms about how to approach coverage on Ukraine, including a note of China’s need for Russian "support" with Taiwan.

One outlet appeared to accidentally post guidelines on what should and should not be published, while an editor from another outlet weighed in with guidance on language and approaches that he believed necessary in walking a fine line.

Ming Jinwei, senior editor at Xinhua News Agency, wrote in his WeChat blog about how his outlet needed to walk a tight line on its Ukraine coverage, noting that China "has to back Russia up with emotional and moral support while refraining from treading on the toes of the United States and European Union."

"In the future, China will also need Russia’s understanding and support when wrestling with America to solve the Taiwan issue once and for all," his post read. Ming said that it "doesn’t hurt" to use moderately pro-Russia language.
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I've wondered if China would seize the opportunity to invade Taiwan.
 
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