War in Ukraine

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volbound1700 said:
I don't buy that NATO is surrounding me ******** for one moment. Tons of European nations can claim that. Hell, San Marino, Vatican City, and Monaco sit entirely inside a NATO nation. Andorra is sandwiched between two of them. Austria, Switzerland, Sweden, etc. are all surrounded by NATO but you don't see any of them bitching.

Too bad that I am not in our diplomatic core and can't repeat this message to Putin. His logic makes 0 sense.

If I was President, I would simply tell Putin to get the hell out of Ukraine within 48 hours and off the border or we will fire nuclear tipped ICBMs at Moscow and St. Petersburg. That will get him thinking twice and out of Ukraine and solve this problem.

BTW, we have a MISSLE DEFENSE SHIELD Putin that can shoot down your Nukes.
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Yeah, let's cause the end of the world. Great strategy there.

BTW, Russia has hypersonic missiles that we can't defend against.
 
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davethevol said:
We are facing major economic economic and social problems too. That’s what has me worried. If gas hits $7 a gallon here as a national average, only the elite will be able to sustain their way of living. It will be catastrophic for America. We will have no choice but to get involved at that point since our leaders refuse to make us energy independent.
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Harriss isn't too concerned, anti-American ideologues will finish us off
 
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Watching Hannity. He says Putin is doing this because he saw Biden leave Afghanistan.

Lol. Just lol. He forgot, you know a pretty key fact.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Here's the thing... NATO nor us is going to do anything more than lodge formal complaints if the Russians really are occupying the "rebel" areas of Ukraine. Why?

A. Putin knows we have a full potato as President and won't do anything other than complain (he knew this from 2009-2017 as well)

B. Putin knows good and well West Europe depends on the gas flow to survive the winter and our chief full potato's environmental stance won't allow additional drilling or exploitation of the resources we could have to help with that.

C. NATO is in no position to actually project force in Ukraine since our full potato in chief has our military in a scramble over being diversified and is rooting out "possible domestic terrorists."

D. Putin knows sanctions won't do a damn bit of good against Russia since they've already been under sanctions before and many, if not most other nations could care less about the Donbass or any other area of Ukraine. (see Iran)

E. China is remaining neutral at best and, at worst, tacitly supporting it which gives the UN Security Council zero legs

F. Putin is probably one of the craftiest world politicians and master geopolitical chess player (whether you like him or not, one can admit that) and he will not do something without knowing what he's getting into. Hence, if he thinks he can invade Ukraine... or occupy certain areas and get away with it, he will. That die was cast a long time ago.

G. The majority of our own country could give a hootie damn about Ukraine (no offense to any Ukrainians reading this) because they have lost faith in our military and the political powers that be to actually fight and win in a conflict. (see Afghanistan)

H. Putin knows our own political landscape is so fractured we couldn't agree on a response to the threat, hence, he had free reign to do what he wants.

And there you have it.
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I will admit I am not very knowledgeable on this subject but your post matches my thinking almost exactly. Weak US President and energy crisis in Europe just made this a perfect time for Russia/Putin to flex their muscle.
 
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My question and I apologize f it has already been discussed. Is this whole situation taking place if Trump is still president? I despise Biden but am not knowledgeable enough on the situation to know if Trump changes anything.
 
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They are a cult. They don't understand they are the dumb ****s that put him into office, or are being swindled AGAIN. They are a cult. They've been brainwashed. Save your own sanity. You are going to need it.
 
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