Recruiting Forum Football Talk IV

[peaygolf]

Where do you rank him among:

Crompton
Stephens
Coleman
Simms
Worley
Peterman
Guarantano
Dormady
McBride
Chryst
Maurer
Shrout
Bailey

Randy Wallace................You have 2 of the greatest Vols in history with Larry Seivers and Stanley Morgan. and you go 6-5 with loses to North Texas, Ole Miss, & Vandy.

 

[drvenner]

Where do you rank him among:

Crompton
Stephens
Coleman
Simms
Worley
Peterman
Guarantano
Dormady
McBride
Chryst
Maurer
Shrout
Bailey

Steve Alatorre and Jeff Olszewski.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

All I heard about Bailey from fans was if he didn’t start then he would transfer to a team like Georgia or Florida and we would regret it…it looks like those ppl were totally right about that kids talent

I watched that kid dominate in several HS games against some of the best HS competition in the country...he played behind a decent at best OL, and didn't get his stats by being bailed out by the talent he played with...the kud threw beautiful pass after beautiful pass after beautiful pass..

I will never understand what happened to him. Look at the success of the other top 5 Georgia HS QBs in college and explain it.

 

[Devo182]

2022 College Football Betting Power Ratings

Weird but ok...



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They're seriously saying their system would predict NC State over UGA on a neutral field using a Vegas point spread?!

Lololol I call B.S.

Also...I'd take that bet

 

[engineerVOL]

Where do you rank him among:

Crompton
Stephens
Coleman
Simms
Worley
Peterman
Guarantano
Dormady
McBride
Chryst
Maurer
Shrout
Bailey

Hm. I don’t know. He’s more on the same plane as Maurer right now. I guess? I don’t think he’s a very good QB right now. Look forward to his improvement though.

 

[Devo182]

Oh and 5-7 FSU that's added literally no one of major consequence...going to be #13?!

 

[DarthVol1]

Randy Wallace................You have 2 of the greatest Vols in history with Larry Seivers and Stanley Morgan. and you go 6-5 with loses to North Texas, Ole Miss, & Vandy.

I will raise you Steve Allatore and Jeff Olszewski, circa 1980.

Swansoned by drvenner

 

[Devo182]

Where do you rank him among:

Crompton
Stephens
Coleman
Simms
Worley
Peterman
Guarantano
Dormady
McBride
Chryst
Maurer
Shrout
Bailey

There are some poor QBs on there, but sadly the only ones he's statistically better than are Peterman and Maurer.

But fwiw Milton has thrown all of a measly 62 passes under Heupel. Look at helpless Peterman or helpless Crompton before they received better teaching while maturing.

There's really no precedence to believe he won't make strides if he sticks with and listens to Heupel. The guy will develop anyone that sticks around.

 

[DawgInterloper]

They're seriously saying their system would predict NC State over UGA on a neutral field using a Vegas point spread?!

Lololol I call B.S.

Also...I'd take that bet

More interesting to me is that the spread between #1 and #4 is 17.1 points. The spread between #4 and #45 is 15.3 points.

 

[UTSuave’]

Bro!…WTF

 

[Glitch]

This is where our disappointment begins.

TWSS....

 

[InVOLuntary]

@orange parmejohn, Are you doing ok?

 

[Glitch]

War. Damn. Eagle.

 

[jakez4ut]

 

[peaygolf]

I will raise you Steve Allatore and Jeff Olszewski, circa 1980.

Swansoned by drvenner

Alatorre was ok. He only started part of '80 and all of '81. Garden State Bowl MVP............

 

[Devo182]

I will never understand what happened to him. Look at the success of the other top 5 Georgia HS QBs in college and explain it.

Jmo but the best answer to that is actually kind of simple - the recent slew of guys was an anomaly. Lawrence, Fields, Fromm, Watson. Absolute gunners, but historically the best QBs out of GA were a mixed bag of mehs and unknowns:

K'hari Lane
Austin Parker
Bailey Fisher
Stetson Bennett
Zach Stanford
Jonathan Mcrary

And so on.

Or look at Florida's best ever: (WHO?)



And these are the NATION'S BEST EVER





All in all HS stats are typically far overvalued, in comparison to a basic evaluation. At the end of the day there's a good reason those other guys were 5*s, if not top-5, and HB finished the #100 recruit, right in the range of JG, Ainge, Salter (oops), Dobbs, etc. Typically a very mixed bag range of guys or guys that need 3 years to develop. There were obviously concerns with him and unfortunately they turned out to be validated. Think he could still be a decent guy in the G5. Just seemed too slow at processing for the SEC. No shame in that, he just needs a classical play-action and slower pace system that affords him time.

 

[butchna]

Maybe if everything goes right, but we are 2-3 key injuries away from struggling to get to 7-5.

I don't understand how that is not apparent to everybody.

What HASN’T happened isn’t “apparent” to anyone. We’re also 2-3 Cedric Tillman/Velus Jones/Theo Jackson stories from exceeding 10 wins. Nothing’s wrong yet.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

I hate they had to burn his redshirt but moving forward he needs all the minutes he can get because we're gonna need him and BHH to play major roles next year.

Burning a red shirt for him won't matter. He was a hig 4 fringe 5 star guy, he's most likely gone in 2-3 years anyway

 

[DawgInterloper]

I'd guess that some Auburn fans would take Muschamp even if they didn't like him as a coach. They're getting to be like GT fans now, they don't necessarily care if something helps or hurts Auburn as long as it might hurt UGA.

 

[Girth Brooks]

 

[CobbVol]

War. Damn. Eagle.

I always thought Auburn would be the SEC school to pursue Hugh Freeze. If they make the move with Harsin this is their chance.

 

[rjd970]

Bro!…WTF

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No way that kid is 17. That’s ridiculous.

 

[Orangeburst]

Jmo but the best answer to that is actually kind of simple - the recent slew of guys was an anomaly. Lawrence, Fields, Fromm, Watson. Absolute gunners, but historically the best QBs out of GA were a mixed bag of mehs and unknowns:

K'hari Lane
Austin Parker
Bailey Fisher
Stetson Bennett
Zach Stanford
Jonathan Mcrary

And so on.

Or look at Florida's best ever: (WHO?)
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And these are the NATION'S BEST EVER

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All in all HS stats are typically far overvalued, in comparison to a basic evaluation. At the end of the day there's a good reason those other guys were 5*s, if not top-5, and HB finished the #100 recruit, right in the range of JG, Ainge, Salter (oops), Dobbs, etc. Typically a very mixed bag range of guys or guys that need 3 years to develop. There were obviously concerns with him and unfortunately they turned out to be validated. Think he could still be a decent guy in the G5. Just seemed too slow at processing for the SEC. No shame in that, he just needs a classical play-action and slower pace system that affords him time.

Hey that's our Brent Schaeffer

 

[butchna]

No way that kid is 17. That’s ridiculous.

No more believable if he was 25. That’s super human!

 

[VOLINVONORE]

I watched that kid dominate in several HS games against some of the best HS competition in the country...he played behind a decent at best OL, and didn't get his stats by being bailed out by the talent he played with...the kud threw beautiful pass after beautiful pass after beautiful pass..

I will never understand what happened to him. Look at the success of the other top 5 Georgia HS QBs in college and explain it.

He was the best high school coach I have seen in person, except for a Freshman QB I saw at Rogersville way back in the late 1950s. This kid was killed in an automobile accident on a Friday night when his football game had been postponed because of huge storm.