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jakez4ut said:
At a volleyball tournament... My 14 year old's team dominated the first set of game 1. 2nd set they gotta cocky and were down four, 13-9.

My daughter got a kill to make it 13-10, and got the serve back. And low and behold it's her serve.

They won 25-10.

16 straight points to win the set, and game.

I'm all...
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Update... They won their pod...3-0 on the day. On to single elimination...😎
 
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Smokey123 said:
Elway had so many seasons throwing more INT’s than TD’s, the dude barely threw more TD’s than INT’s in his entire career. Might as well call Terry Bradshaw the goat while you’re at it
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In elways defense….. the defenses were allowed to defend the forward pass when he played qb.
 
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Devo182 said:
Looking at a bunch of old timers' stats makes one realize how much better modern QBs are...along with shifting of the game rules. But even looking at non-rules related stats, (accruacy, not throwing INTs) they've progressed so dramatically. It's not even close really. For example, Bradshaw only threw 2 more TDs than INTs in his career and had a lifetime 71 qbr, yet is revered.

Even "the greatest to never win a SB" Marino only completed 59% of his passes, 1.7 TD:Int ratio, and career 86 QBR...respectable, but far from "great" looking vs modern guys.

Meanwhile a "3rd place" modern QB like Aaron Rodgers has a nuts 5:1 TD/Int ratio and 104 career QBR. Statistically the best, in fact. Brees had a career 97 qbr and 2.3 td:int. As mentioned earlier, both far ahead of even Elway.

Mahomes is chugging along at an incredible pace too. Burrow exploded too...see where he goes. Throw in Allen, TLaw, eventually Bryce Young...Manning. It'll be interesting to see how far further the gap grows.

The advent of 7-on-7, qb camps, specific training, improved offensive schemes, along with pro-off rules have really progressed the QB role to a degree that older QBs now look mediocre in comparison. Not to take away what they did at the time, but it is what it is. They never had all the training and specialization and understanding these guys do.

Not starting a debate or whatever, I just find it very interesting is all. I've never looked at all those old stats and it's eye opening what a different world the NFL is now.
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It has everything to do with rule changes and how spread offenses are ran today…… my proof is Goff throwing for close to 5,000 yards multiple times….. that guy is a way below average qb.
 
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VFL1993 said:
Here’s a breakdown of Brady’s SB titles:

First 3 SBs were because of defense and very little to do with Brady.

Seahawks had one of the worst offensive play calls in history on the goal line.

Falcons had one of the worst breakdowns in history.

Rams’ offensive play calling was horrid.

Chiefs were missing like 4/5 of their o-line.

To conclude, Brady has been extremely lucky during his career. He’s definitely top 5 or 10 in my book but he gets way too much credit for the 7 SBs.
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Ok, going to disagree here and I believe Payton was better as far as a pure passer goes, but Brady wasn't "lucky" to win those SuperBowls. To get there he had to beat Manning, Rothlesberger, and the Ravens with Ray Lewis in his prime every year. Brady didn't have the strongest arm and wasn't the best pure passer, but his prep was second to none. He rarely made big mistakes and engineered scoring drives to win big playoff games in the last 2 mins over and over again against the Colts and Steelers. He played to his teams' strengths, made the right play calls, passed to the right people, and rarely made big mistakes. That wasn't luck.... I am a Steelers fan and hated playing Brady more than any QB.
 
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jave36 said:
And yet lots of other coaches have flat out lied to the NCAA about far worse infractions, but nothing has happened to them. That's the point you're missing. Yes of course if Bruce had been a choir boy he'd still be here, but other coaches are allowed to do far worse without consequence.
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When Bruce did he little dance of lies, the NCAA was much more powerful than it has been the last 2-4 years. No where near he same offense now as it was then.
 
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