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SSVol said:
Sadly, that's probably what the SEC is trending towards.

Already starting to consider whether my money would be better spent at ETSU. I'll always be a Vols fan, but that doesn't require an investment, only a TV.
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NIL is going to sort itself out. It already has a little bit just in one year. The only difference between before NIL and after NiL is now the players get paid legally.

It’s not as big an issue as everyone is making it out to be. Also, the one thing that needs to change is the transfer portal and by that I mean if you make more than one transfer there should be a 1 year sit out period. First transfer free. Second Sit out a year.
 
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This is in response to 99vol. Not sure why it’s not showing...
When 1 player does not play in his bowl because he does not want to take a chance of getting hurt because the bowl and a win for his teammates is secondary.... That’s what is happening more and more every year especially since the playoffs were started. It is now about what is best for the individual ($) and not what is best for the team.
 
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SSVol said:
I'm well aware of the financial realities of recruitment. My bubble is fine.

I'm not opposed to NIL, but there is a huge difference in players being able to benefit from their name being on the jersey you bought vs it simply being a way for billionaires to legally buy athletes under the guise of NIL. The way it's currently structured, the rich will get richer, and everyone else will suffer. So yeah, I guess it is the American way.
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Ehh I actually think it gives the smaller schools a better chance. A lot of small schools have people who own business and can structure NIL deals that way, because they don’t want to “hide” their money with bagmen etc.

The big universities had the whole bagman thing going and it gave them an advantage over smaller schools. NIL actually levels the playing field IMO.
 
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peaygolf said:
Can’t wait for more guys to start opting out mid-season because they have NIL cash in their pocket……..gonna be great for college athletics!
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You really think these guys are gonna hurt their chances at the NFL and their draft stock because some alumni handed them a few hundred thousand?
 
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SweetasSoda said:
This is in response to 99vol. Not sure why it’s not showing...

When 1 player does not play in his bowl because he does not want to take a chance of getting hurt because the bowl and a win for his teammates is secondary.... That’s what is happening more and more every year especially since the playoffs were started. It is now about what is best for the individual ($) and not what is best for the team.
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I don’t disagree your assessment. Is it the right move if your projected top 10? 1st round? Just plain projected to be drafted? I don’t know. That’s a player by player decision. I tend to think in Pickett’s case, the cost outweighs the benefit in this QB class. My take would differ if he were coming out next year. I think his teammates and coaches understand that. If he were in the playoffs or conference championship, My take is different. It’s just a reality that playoffs have devalued bowls for some. I don’t like it. Also, Don’t confuse my take in this bowl with regular season sitting program as suggested by Mr. Check a few weeks ago. I don’t agree with that at all.
 
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Tillman has made his decision on whether he is coming back or nor but is waiting or announce it. Anyone else feel like he is going to the bowl game and then hitting the draft?
 
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volKano said:
Tillman has made his decision on whether he is coming back or nor but is waiting or announce it. Anyone else feel like he is going to the bowl game and then hitting the draft?
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I think if he announces before the bowl game it’s gonna be him staying. If he announces after I think he’s gone
 
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SweetasSoda said:
This is in response to 99vol. Not sure why it’s not showing...

When 1 player does not play in his bowl because he does not want to take a chance of getting hurt because the bowl and a win for his teammates is secondary.... That’s what is happening more and more every year especially since the playoffs were started. It is now about what is best for the individual ($) and not what is best for the team.
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I mean. When the Bowl Game doesn’t really mean anything and you have a chance to get drafted to the NFL which only 1% of college athletes get a chance to happen, and you are going to make Millions I have no issue with you sitting out. Also, im sure every kid that makes this decision has their teammates behind them. It’s naive to think otherwise.

It’s selfish of fans to want the kid to possibly risk injury prior to being drafted lol.

I mean people were calling for Alontae’s head because he isn’t playing in the bowl game, yet kid played the last 3 games of the season injured.

Now he wants time to recover from the injury so he does well at the combine and people are pissed. Fans are stupid and selfish if you ask me.
 
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
Ehh I actually think it gives the smaller schools a better chance. A lot of small schools have people who own business and can structure NIL deals that way, because they don’t want to “hide” their money with bagmen etc.

The big universities had the whole bagman thing going and it gave them an advantage over smaller schools. NIL actually levels the playing field IMO.
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It also gives some the opportunity to participate that otherwise would not as it is legal…
I think something will change significantly with NIL is a few short years. Not sure what, maybe Congress tries to change things, businesses back off w/o return on investment, etc.?…
 
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volinbama256 said:
Dayum, with Pierce and Josephs, and if we add Verse, we are set...

Go get 1-2 LB's, and OL, Copeland, and a DB in the portal -- we will be a force.
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Definitely need LB but i promise you all Beasley & Banks will be one of the better combos in the league. The athletic ability is there. Just need experience.
 
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HankHill said:
Upset victories are a good indicator of coaching prowess. The only realnegative I have from the season is the Florida game. That was ultimately a bad team. They are more talented but they just beat them selves.
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FU was better than their record. Not a bad team. Mehlen lost that team as he seemed to lose interest. We were in the infant stages of implementing at that time, and HH had not hit his stride. If Hype saw in preseason what he saw from Milton in the first few games, it’s also a different game, but he didn’t…
but yeah, any time we lose to FU it’s a real negative.
 
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VolNash17 said:
I think Heupel is a solid recruiter overall. I get it Fickell basically swooped in and took over the conference but Heupel wasn’t terrible recruiter there
Average recruit rating UCF under Heupel
2018 class 83.64 (2nd behind Cincinnati)
2019 class 84.24 (2nd behind Cincinnati)
2020 class 83.83 (4th behind Cincinnati, Memphis, SMU) Judging by this I don’t see how he’s a terrible recruiter like people have said. I get he isn’t a dominant recruiter but overall he’s very solid.
2023 class for us will be Top 10
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Here's the rub:

1) To be accurate, Hype had the #1 class in 2019.

2) Far more importantly, in those 3 years, Hype also had 12 P5 scholarship transfers that didn't count towards scores. Cincy, in the same period, had 7.

To say it easily, he brought in the best overall classes in his league while he was there. The level of transfers he brought in simply put his classes over the top.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Bell also played DL in HS, so he may have asked to switch positions.
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Didn’t know that, this all makes sense, he was listed as an athlete I believe. I figured the seniors were leaving. Makes this switch all the more interesting. And he’s got some competition coming in, he better get a head start.
 
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