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99Vol said:
Not as of today…. A bit weird though. Several of these teams would have surely offered under different regimes…
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Seeing a Penn State, a blue blood in itself, be viable in an NIL future? Great unknown about many rich in heritage programs and frankly rather unsettling. Can even AL or OH State compete in the no limits NIL game?
Something has to give
 
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SSVol said:
I'm well aware of the financial realities of recruitment. My bubble is fine.

I'm not opposed to NIL, but there is a huge difference in players being able to benefit from their name being on the jersey you bought vs it simply being a way for billionaires to legally buy athletes under the guise of NIL. The way it's currently structured, the rich will get richer, and everyone else will suffer. So yeah, I guess it is the American way.
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💯 Truth
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Ok then...form a super league, then start a draft and salary cap it. Good luck going to Vandy as the #1 player and playing for 2-3000 people because they are the crappiest program in the SEC. Pro sports have to have rules like that to insure competition so tough ****.

Hey..now you are an acknowledged employee though so I'm sure you don't care..
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You dont have to have a draft. European soccer has figured out a decent way of doing it. But a super league(s) would likely result.
 
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Enki_Amenra said:
Kinda condescending tone. . . so there is no sports management at UT? There is more to football than a trade profession.
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Sports management, sure, but you risk turning the university into one of those "we'll give you credit for your work experience" types of schools if you say "get credit for your WR play in HS."

It just cheapens the school look terribly.
 
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Blake25p said:
I generally don’t criticize guys for skipping their bowl game but this is pathetic, if I was a NFL GM this would be a red flag.
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…Or it’s an IQ test and he is set to be the 1st QB drafted for millions of dollars and already proved what he needed in college and getting hurt isn’t worth the draft plummet that comes with it…🤷🏼‍♂️
 
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Orangeburst said:
Seeing a Penn State, a blue blood in itself, be viable in an NIL future? Great unknown about many rich in heritage programs and frankly rather unsettling. Can even AL or OH State compete in the no limits NIL game?
Something has to give
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I think all the big programs have enough wealthy boosters. The $ follows the wins.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
Good offer list. Hopefully we can keep him home
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Compared to being outside the intitial top 10 with his teammate last Winter we certainly have much less ground to cover and Hype and crew are able to in state in home visit this year unlike having to wait till this past summer due to TN regs…
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Sports management, sure, but you risk turning the university into one of those "we'll give you credit for your work experience" types of schools if you say "get credit for your WR play in HS."

It just cheapens the school look terribly.
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How so? You don't think an education in how to manage, play, coach, learn to recruit, scout and train a team is worthy? Considering the potential income for highly trained experts in these fields it would be one of the most sought after degrees.
 
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I think Heupel is a solid recruiter overall. I get it Fickell basically swooped in and took over the conference but Heupel wasn’t terrible recruiter there
Average recruit rating UCF under Heupel
2018 class 83.64 (2nd behind Cincinnati)
2019 class 84.24 (2nd behind Cincinnati)
2020 class 83.83 (4th behind Cincinnati, Memphis, SMU) Judging by this I don’t see how he’s a terrible recruiter like people have said. I get he isn’t a dominant recruiter but overall he’s very solid.
2023 class for us will be Top 10
 
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SSVol said:
I'm sure that most donors are more willing to spend more because of the benefits it affords others. Shocking as it may be, many wealthy people are actually generous. Of course the benefit to me is the best seats in the stadium, but I would be much less inclined to spend that much if there wasn't a deeper benefit.

Donations vs taxes. I do one voluntarily. I fight the other as hard as I can. When college is the same as pro, I'll watch from home.
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I don't have research to back it up, but having worked with donors and just knowing human nature in general, people donate to college football programs to avoid taxes and/or help their favorite team win. If donors could raise the salary cap of their favorite NFL team by donating money, they absolutely would to help them win.

But I'm glad your intentions are somewhat virtuous, it's a good thing to hear that helping kids is part of your motivation, even though I still hold to the notion that you're in the minority. Most of the donors I worked with wouldn't give a penny if I told them it wouldn't help their team win but at least a kid could go to college.
 
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This 2023 class potential has me very excited. We need to stack top 10 classes for a few seasons to get the roster up to a point where we can compete on the field with the Big 3 again. Very confident Heupel can get it to that point. Heupel isn’t a moron like Dooley. He isn’t a self absorbed Narcissist maniac like Butch and he isn’t a dictator dumbass like Pruitt. He understands you’ve got to recruit Top 10 in this conference and basically referenced that many times in his recruiting day press conference. Go out kick some a$$ at the MCB finish 8-5 nail the transfer portal come back next season and finish 8-4 to 10-2 and we’re really cooking with something now. Heupel will get it done just have some patience GBO!
 
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Enki_Amenra said:
How so? You don't think an education in how to manage, play, coach, learn to recruit, scout and train a team is worthy? Considering the potential income for highly trained experts in these fields it would be one of the most sought after degrees.
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That's a viable degree course but I'm certain I saw you suggest getting credit for playing in HS. I responded to that. WR won't be an accredited class at a school like TN.

There's sports management. I think Hooker might be a grad student in something like that after his public relations degree at VT. I'm not sure but I see him as being a potential coach one day.

My issue is giving credit for playing a sport. I'm reasonably certain the NCAA doesn't allow it and I'd wager college accrediting agencies would take a very dim view of it.
 
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