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This NIL shite is complete chaos. Free agency with no salary cap.

A&M should have finished 7-5 if it weren’t for that miracle win against bama, yet they could possibly have the greatest recruiting class of all time.
 
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ChattownVFL said:
This NIL shite is complete chaos. Free agency with no salary cap.

A&M should have finished 7-5 if it weren’t for that miracle win against bama, yet they could possibly have the greatest recruiting class of all time.
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I am agree, something doesn't sit right with the A&M class.

247 Class Rankings:

2018 - 17th / Finished 9-4
2019 - 4th / 8-5
2020 - 6th / 9-1
2021 - 8th / 8-4

Those rankings to go with his record while there doesn't warrant what may be the highest rated class of all time.
 
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05_never_again said:
Wilcox turning down the Oregon job is shocking. Born and raised in the area and went to UO. He hasn't even been good at Cal (hard place to win though) and you'd think an offer from his alma mater would be like a life raft. Crazy.
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I'm surprised to read that the Players all pushed very hard for Wilcox to get the job. They did not want an SEC guy, who they felt didn't fit there. This could get entertaining.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
50k is an extremely LOW estimate at the P5 level. But even if it was say 50k a year for 85 players on scholarship for football that's over 4 million a year and that's just one sport. The SEC didn't generate 1 billion for the whole conference so "billions" is a bit of a stretch. I'd say most schools are in the 50 to 75 million a year in revenue, still a ton of money being made though.

But yeah less than 1% is probably going to scholarship athletes and that seems way to lopsided...but it's no different than what Amazon, Wal-Mart, Microsoft, Tesla, Google, etc. etc. etc. is doing big business has always been lopsided to pay the top folk far more than they truly "earn" than the workers (or athletes).
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Billions was referring to the NCAA in total.

And you also have to factor in the the donor money that wouldn't come without good football players.

In corporate America, each worker is paid cash that they can negotiate, so it is pretty different. And 50k a year is actually high for Tennessee. Tuition, room, board isn't more than 50k right? Even high dollar private schools are under 200k for four years I think. Haven't researched it in a while, so I could be wrong, but 50k was intended to be on the higher end of an estimate.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Sorry...I just got a ton of crap back then for wanting Fulmer out from what I called sheep. They were fine with 7-5 and 8-4 and getting our teeth bashed in annually by Saban, Meyer and Richt in perpetuity.

Of course it all went sideways thanks to hiring Kiffin and Kiffin bolting. I thought for sure the dumbasses would hire a good coach to replace Phil....but nope.
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The situation was really worse than "7-5 or 8-4". We had a losing record two of his last four years. More than that, it felt like he was losing a bit of control in the program. Recruiting was slipping from his previous successes and the high-end recruits we did get either underperformed or had off the field issues. The coaching was improved across the SEC and he was simply being outcoached routinely. Without Cutcliffe, he was simply mediocre or worse.

Fulmer's time was up and most any rational person could see it. My understanding of the situation at the time is Fulmer was offered a smooth 'retirement' exit and turned it down. In effect, he's the one who burned down the house on the way out. That's when the 12-15 year leadership vacuum became evident. If UT had proper leadership in place, the next hire (or two) would have pulled us from that situation. We've seen it at Florida and other places. Instead, they killed the goose and destroyed the golden egg.

But it happens other places as well. Alabama went through a few bad years and rough hires in the 90's.
 
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TheRain said:
I agree.

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That’s a great point. I also have a maybe unpopular opinion… every team should be eligible for a bowl game. If we’re serious about equal playing fields, then let everyone have those extra 15 practices.

Now, I’m not oblivious to the trouble with why anyone would want, for instance, Andy, to come to their town… but I yield.

Maybe allow practices on campus, bowl game or not, for that matter.
 
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MrVolton said:
Saban and Meyer came into the league and blew Fulmer’s doors off, and he wasn’t even competitive with them. Having the lowest rated recruiting class at UT that I can ever remember despite coming of a trip to Atlanta just widened the gap more.

Another fact to put things in perspective: Kiffin inherited a roster with 2 walk-ons starting on either side of the ball.

Any thing suggesting Fulmer would have turned it around bucks the trend, and involves a lot of what ifs and conjecture.
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Fulmer didn't handle Spurrier very well either!
 
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jave36 said:
Billions was referring to the NCAA in total.

And you also have to factor in the the donor money that wouldn't come without good football players.

In corporate America, each worker is paid cash that they can negotiate, so it is pretty different. And 50k a year is actually high for Tennessee. Tuition, room, board isn't more than 50k right? Even high dollar private schools are under 200k for four years I think. Haven't researched it in a while, so I could be wrong, but 50k was intended to be on the higher end of an estimate.
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If you're ONLY talking Tuition, room & board then yeah it's somewhere around 50k or a bit less. To me what really drives up how much a player is really getting is medical, training, & travel.
 
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