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1world1love said:
Yep. Context is important and I think that a lot of people that had Pitt as a W probably didn't really know anything about Pitt's roster or how good they might actually be. It was a very, very experienced roster with more than a few bonafide playmakers.

Even so, just the way that game played out led me to believe that CJH might be the real deal. None of the position groups played particularly well. We made tons of mistakes. Frankly, there were many times in the game where we looked dead in the water. I was certain that we would fold like a cheap lawn chair and get beat by three touchdowns because that is what Pruitt's teams did.

But despite playing poorly for large parts of the game, we were still in it till the end. Not just that, but the team actually seemed to believe that they could win the game.

The fact that CJH had the team prepared to win every game is why I think he deserves a ton of credit. The hardest part of turning around a program is changing a losing mentality into a winning mentality, but you could see that even in the games we lost, the players never looked like they expected to lose.
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The reason the team looked like that to you in the Pitt game was the crooked refs screwing us over and over and over and over...look how many bad and iffy calls were made in that game...hell just look at the number of penalties called on us general..

I think that game was truly stolen by the ACC refs.
 
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Cheatham County Vol said:
Not in line with the Fulmer hate on this board. Guy dedicated over half of his life to Tennessee, and was the driving force behind the most successful decade in the football program’s history. Don’t understand the level of disdain for him around here.
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Just because you do not understand it, doesn’t mean there aren't several good reasons that people don't like him.
 
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Cheatham County Vol said:
Not in line with the Fulmer hate on this board. Guy dedicated over half of his life to Tennessee, and was the driving force behind the most successful decade in the football program’s history. Don’t understand the level of disdain for him around here.
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Because he was the driving force behind our most unsuccessful decade too 🤷
 
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ACvol3 said:
So what is Barstools connection to Jackson state? I know it’s rumored that barstool and some gaming company gave him tons of money to go to JSU… but why? What’s in it for them?
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I'd say the biggest thing in it for them is the fact everyone is talking about them. If a company is truly doing an NIL for exposure vs just buying players for a certain team I'd say they knocked this 1 out of the park.
 
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Cheatham County Vol said:
Not in line with the Fulmer hate on this board. Guy dedicated over half of his life to Tennessee, and was the driving force behind the most successful decade in the football program’s history. Don’t understand the level of disdain for him around here.
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I'm with you on this one. Take a look at when we won a National Championship before 98' and since of course. Liked seeing him at that dinner with Heupel as well. He's all Vol.
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
It means we have 12 kids that at least one of the sites considers good enough in their eyes to be a four star. Says a lot to me as there are different sets of eyes on kids and at end of the day what matters is do they fit your system which can make them either eventually overrated, underrated and right on the mark. We have systems on both sides of the ball where it wouldn’t suprise me if we have very high hit rates nearly every class when you let kids play fast with no fear.

Really it’s just all the same analyst recycled. On3 is the same crew that built 247 from the ground.
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I get that part. What I mean is...is that even any good? What's the standard/context? No one tracks such a stat. When I looked into a similar thing in the past true 50% bluechip classes suddenly were 80% "bluechips" and that was when there were just 3 sites, not 4. That would appear to be the "BCR" standard. Maybe 60% (12/20) is about like 37.5% true bluechips ratio...which seems about right as our true ratio is 35%.

I mean you could have a class full of 87 guys (87 average...probably ranked 25th-30th) and theoretically have a "100% blue chip ratio" if you just went by if even 1 of any of the 4 sites had them rated as a 4*. Why most people use composite or an industry average or a consensus ranking. Taking the best of all 4 sites leaves every team with high looking numbers - so the question is what's even considered good at that point?

Even worse, now there's star inflation. That new site On3 has 450(!!) 4 stars 🤣 Wild lol
 
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Cheatham County Vol said:
Not in line with the Fulmer hate on this board. Guy dedicated over half of his life to Tennessee, and was the driving force behind the most successful decade in the football program’s history. Don’t understand the level of disdain for him around here.
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I don't hate Fulmer and appreciate everything he's given this university.

I just don't want him meddling with football operations anymore, and he needs to understand his role at Tennessee is as a figure and legend, much like Peyton has done successfully.

I admittedly was in favor of him becoming AD back when it happened, and that failed experiment led us to where we are now - for better or worse.
 
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