To Protect and to Serve II

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Rasputin_Vol said:
Trespassers
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No, city workers doing their job tending to neglected properties that are abandoned/neglected. He lives in the city in close proximity to neighbors who are unreasonably affected.

If he wants to live as a recluse in an unkempt property he can move to a rural area and do so affecting no one. As it stands he chose to live in the city in a neighborhood where there are laws and expectations for basic care of said property. Hey was wrong in this case, he doubled down by attempting to assault someone with a deadly weapon. Whether you think it appropriate or not that is going to get a police response every time..... Rightfully so. And when you barricade yourself with firearms and refuse to communicate with the police that ups the response.

There are plenty of cases to point to and say this was needless, police were in the wrong....... This one ain't it.
 
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KB5252 said:
No, city workers doing their job tending to neglected properties that are abandoned/neglected. He lives in the city in close proximity to neighbors who are unreasonably affected.

If he wants to live as a recluse in an unkempt property he can move to a rural area and do so affecting no one. As it stands he chose to live in the city in a neighborhood where there are laws and expectations for basic care of said property. Hey was wrong in this case, he doubled down by attempting to assault someone with a deadly weapon. Whether you think it appropriate or not that is going to get a police response every time..... Rightfully so. And when you barricade yourself with firearms and refuse to communicate with the police that ups the response.

There are plenty of cases to point to and say this was needless, police were in the wrong....... This one ain't it.
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The response by the city for violating a petty azz ordinance was to trespass on his property with landscapers.

You guys unknowingly open the door to all kinds of govt intervention when you don't see anything wrong with this.

What happened to "my property, my choice"?
 
#13,359
#13,359
KB5252 said:
No, city workers doing their job tending to neglected properties that are abandoned/neglected. He lives in the city in close proximity to neighbors who are unreasonably affected.

If he wants to live as a recluse in an unkempt property he can move to a rural area and do so affecting no one.
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How does this guy not cutting his grass affect you?

And why do you want to violate their property rights and cast them out of the neighborhood the chose?

You don't use the brute force of govt or violate their rights or use coercion to get people to act the way you want them to act in a free society.
 
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#13,361
Rasputin_Vol said:
That was in response to:



Obviously, several juries disagreed.
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Lol you might want to educate yourself on that ruling. They served time in federal prison anyway. The only charge that was deadlocked was the first degree murder because 1 crazy juror refused to budge no matter what. Rocky Houston and his brother are nutjobs who believed the FBI was spying on them thru their TV

It’s amazing that you believe it’s ok to shoot and kill someone who is legally doing their job
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
The response by the city for violating a petty azz ordinance was to trespass on his property with landscapers.

You guys unknowingly open the door to all kinds of govt intervention when you don't see anything wrong with this.

What happened to "my property, my choice"?
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Someone doesn’t understand property laws either. Even private ones. Jesus
 
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#13,364
Rasputin_Vol said:
Again, let's be clear... you have no issue with a petty azz ordinance leading to the city being able to encroach on your property and make modifications to your property?
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That’s part of the agreement that you make when you buy property inside a city. You follow their ordinances. You can’t abandon your property inside a neighborhood to the point that snakes and rats and diseases would breed there. On top of that even if the law WAS “unjust” you can’t shoot someone on your property just because they are there
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
That’s part of the agreement that you make when you buy property inside a city. You follow their ordinances. You can’t abandon your property inside a neighborhood to the point that snakes and rats and diseases would breed there. On top of that even if the law WAS “unjust” you can’t shoot someone on your property just because they are there
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This x1000000
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
That’s part of the agreement that you make when you buy property inside a city. You follow their ordinances. You can’t abandon your property inside a neighborhood to the point that snakes and rats and diseases would breed there. On top of that even if the law WAS “unjust” you can’t shoot someone on your property just because they are there
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So as a matter of public health, the govt has the right to encroach on your property?
How much further can the govt go with regards to public health?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
How does this guy not cutting his grass affect you?

And why do you want to violate their property rights and cast them out of the neighborhood the chose?

You don't use the brute force of govt or violate their rights or use coercion to get people to act the way you want them to act in a free society.
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Not cutting your grass invites mice, insects etc and artificially lowers your property values
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
So again, as a matter of public health, how far can govt go to get you to comply?
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If you aren't going to do it they'll do it for you. They attempted to, he attempted to kill them for doing it after being given notice.

Again he can choose to live as a recluse, have an unkempt yard. If that's what he wants he can live in the country away from neighbors. It's all about choices, everyone is free to do as they wish until you negatively affect others. There are consequences to actions and inaction.
 
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