Vaccine or not?

[tnmarktx]

If one merely takes a step back and actually looks around closely you can see that it’s already started happening. Blue state does this thing, Red state does the opposite thing and vice versa. The boundary lines are being drawn as each sides digs their heels deeper into their choice of federal tyranny or states freedom.

My hope is that it continues to remain rather peaceful but I’m not holding my breath on that. The ongoing purge of our military of those who would uphold their Oath to the Constitution first and foremost might lead someone to wonder if nefarious motives are being set in motion. An existing EO that allows the federalization of a national police force which would then allow the UN to become involved and authorizes use of our remaining military on US soil against US citizens might cause an uneasy feeling or two. Norfolk Naval Base belonging to NATO doesn’t help either.

That along with the way a politician gains support from its constituency all but guarantees it won't remain peaceful. This forum is a prime example of this. Once a portion of the citizenry is seemingly applauding the right to work be taken away for choosing not to take a vaccine it's almost guaranteed to lead to bloodshed eventually. It most likely won't stop at losing your right to work.

 

[WBO]

I say that if you don't want the vaccine, don't get it. I'll keep watching for you on sorryantivaxxers.com, my favorite new website.

At this point the anti-vaxxers don't care if they expose people with compromised immune systems, so I don't care if they catch Covid and die.

 

[tnmarktx]

At this point the anti-vaxxers don't care if they expose people with compromised immune systems,

What you don't seem to understand is that fully vaxxed people can contract and expose people to covid. It's purely science.

 

[AshG]

Getting Booster #2 this Friday. I'm immunocompromised and my doctor friends are up my ass about it. Then the flu shot and a pneumonia shot a week later.

I feel like a pincushion again

 

[ButchPlz]

What you don't seem to understand is that fully vaxxed people can contract and expose people to covid. It's purely science.

Or that if the "vaccine" is so effective, those that have it have nothing to worry about it.

Pick one- it works, which means it shouldn't matter if your neighbor has it, or it doesn't, in which case it shouldn't matter if anyone has it.

 

[Jxn Vol]

I say that if you don't want the vaccine, don't get it. I'll keep watching for you on sorryantivaxxers.com, my favorite new website.

At this point the anti-vaxxers don't care if they expose people with compromised immune systems, so I don't care if they catch Covid and die.

They have a 99% chance of survival. I’m sure that disappoints you.

 

[ButchPlz]

They have a 99% chance of survival. I’m sure that disappoints you.

The most comorbid groups are even up in the what, 95-97% range? Which is not great, but still not world-ending.

 

[BowlBrother85]

I never realized just how many atheists posted here because if you support forced vaccination mandates against individual personal choice you’re completely negating the free will of choice bestowed upon all humans by the Divine Creator.

To be so willing to negate that free will of choice you can’t possibly believe that there is a Divine Creator who bestowed it upon the creation of humans in the first place.

I do not claim to be a theologian, but I'm pretty sure the Bible doesn't say that free will extends into decisions which could compromise the health and safety of other people.

 

[RikidyBones]

Getting Booster #2 this Friday. I'm immunocompromised and my doctor friends are up my ass about it. Then the flu shot and a pneumonia shot a week later.

I feel like a pincushion again

... So this will be your 4th?

I'm assuming 3rd but wanted to inquire

 

[ButchPlz]

I do not claim to be a theologian, but I'm pretty sure the Bible doesn't say that free will extends into decisions which could compromise the health and safety of other people.

If you can demonstrably prove that the un-treated are directly harming people you'd have a point, but all you choose to do is call people dumb.

You're not really much of anything.

 

[MG1968]

I say that if you don't want the vaccine, don't get it. I'll keep watching for you on sorryantivaxxers.com, my favorite new website.

At this point the anti-vaxxers don't care if they expose people with compromised immune systems, so I don't care if they catch Covid and die.

98+% survival rate vs. 100% emotional, anecdotal fear porn.

 

[Vjcvette]

See, this is exactly the issue I have with you. You don’t even comprehend the actual numbers. You just post the made-up headline like it is real. Just like the author of the article, you have no idea what you are talking about. The numbers you posted( no matter where you got them) were wrong. Instead of reading the actual article you linked and seeing your error, you doubled down on your stupidity. Embrace your stupidity and keep posting your fear porn.

My stats are from the CDC, I do not know where you get your numbers from

 

[BowlBrother85]

They have a 99% chance of survival. I’m sure that disappoints you.

Mortality rates should not be the only focus, when dealing with a disease which spreads as easily as COVID-19. You should also consider the high number of cases, and what that means for the body count.

 

[DynaLo]

I do not claim to be a theologian, but I'm pretty sure the Bible doesn't say that free will extends into decisions which could compromise the health and safety of other people.

So it works both ways. The Covid shots are compromising the health and safety of other people and so are the vaxxed who with little to no symptoms to signal infection are walking around spreading Covid.

 

[Vjcvette]

ee, this is exactly the issue I have with you. You don’t even comprehend the actual numbers. You just post the made-up headline like it is real. Just like the author of the article, you have no idea what you are talking about. The numbers you posted( no matter where you got them) were wrong. Instead of reading the actual article you linked and seeing your error, you doubled down on your stupidity. Embrace your stupidity and keep posting your fear porn.

The quote above that was posted by @825VOL is a perfect example of what I was talking about that the only people in here calling people names are the antivaxers. I do not have
to call people names to make a point, its the one's that loose in a debate that have to start name calling and when you back them into a corner, then they run and tell the teacher...

 

[BowlBrother85]

If you can demonstrably prove that the un-treated are directly harming people you'd have a point, but all you choose to do is call people dumb.

You're not really much of anything.

This has been proven.

 

[MG1968]

The only people I see on here calling people names are the antivaxers

The term for this is “willful ignorance.”

 

[ButchPlz]

This has been proven.

Saying this has been proven is not proof. You've not provided, really, much of anything. It's sad.

 

[BowlBrother85]

The Covid shots are compromising the health and safety

How so? The vaccines have reduced the number of COVID-19 cases, which in turn reduces the number of COVID-related deaths.

so are the vaxxed who with little to no symptoms to signal infection are walking around spreading Covid.

Once again, the statistics are clear on this. The vaccines have reduced the spread of COVID. There is still a risk, but the vaccines have saved lives. There is no question about that.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Saying this has been proven is not proof. You've not provided, really, much of anything. It's sad.

LOL. It's been proven that the vaccines have reduced the spread of COVID. People who have been vaccinated, but have still contracted the disease are also less likely to become seriously ill, than people who are unvaccinated.

 

[AshG]

... So this will be your 4th?

I'm assuming 3rd but wanted to inquire

No, I haven't had my 3rd shot yet. Haven't had time. College band directors don't have time to deal with nasty side effects during football season.

 

[ButchPlz]

LOL. It's been proven that the vaccines have reduced the spread of COVID. People who have been vaccinated, but have still contracted the disease are also less likely to become seriously ill, than people who are unvaccinated.

Ignoring literally all of the rest of your post, what you're saying is that the vaccine is effective and that those vaccinated don't get that ill, which means even if your first assumption is correct then the post I initially responded to is a lie.

You can't even keep your thoughts straight. I can't imagine how hard it must be to walk in your shoes.

 

[RikidyBones]

No, I haven't had my 3rd shot yet. Haven't had time. College band directors don't have time to deal with nasty side effects during football season.

 

[AshG]

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Good thing about being D2 is the season is over slightly earlier. I can't figure out for the life of me how D2 decides playoffs.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Ignoring literally all of the rest of your post, what you're saying is that the vaccine is effective and that those vaccinated don't get that ill, which means even if your first assumption is correct then the post I initially responded to is a lie.

You can't even keep your thoughts straight. I can't imagine how hard it must be to walk in your shoes.

This is ridiculous. I have said that the vaccines have reduced the risk of becoming seriously ill with COVID. I never said that the vaccines have eliminated the threat of becoming seriously ill with symptoms of COVID.