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it wasn't just one play that was called wrong - although it was an obvious theft of a TD. It was allowing Kiffin to make a mockery of injured player time outs week after week with our game being the absolute worst, not calling obvious holding on nearly offensive play they had the ball which allowed it to continue the entire game, not calling a blatant face mask penalty in the open a couple of yards from the official at the spot of a completed pass, a line official making the call on a ball placement he did not see since he was 20 yards vertically plus to the middle of the field away from the spot (about 30-35 yards), etc. etc.

The QB draws were brilliant schematically by Kiffin and our D did not spy the QB correctly. However, call the holding penalties as they should and more than half of those Corral runs don't happen. Byron Young would have been all over them.

Every time I see Curles and his crew call a game I know one of the teams is about to get screwed and it has been that way for years and years. It's not just us, it's been other teams as well. The national sports media has called it out for years. The SEC and Sanctimonious Sankey just don't care. We need to make them care and it needs to start in Boyd's office and work its way through the rest of UT. They need to align with some other schools who have been through the same thing and put the hammer down on Sankey - publicly. With his Texas/OU public relations debacle he cannot afford an open mutiny in the news.
 
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BigOrangeVols said:
Rest the starters this week. We need them for Kentucky.
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OK, I have the answer to our problem with officiating and address all of our guys who are banged up against Bama. Every single play when we are on offense, throw the ball at a different referee and hit them, or run the ball right at one of them and knock them down unintentionally. On defense, make it a point to run over one of them accidentally every play. You can do all of this with players from the bench. Then, let Danny White send Sankey a note and tell him this is what will happen every game when officials start intentionally making corrupt calls. Go all The Longest Yard on them!
 
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volbeast33 said:
No one is patient at all anymore
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People will and should have more patience with a roster reality like ours, but Dabo and those other annual top five recruiting programs that pile up talent like cordwood deserve zero patience from anybody...none.

They have zero excuse for having crappy play at several positions.
 
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vol81 said:
What I would like to know is why is that not a reviewable play? If there was no whistle then it would seem to me that it has to be reviewable.
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There was no whistle, refs never called it dead and were running down the sideline like you would on any other fumble or int return for TD. They decided to change the call and make it non-reviewable. Game was rigged from the get go.

Also, I noticed that the refs never called out Kiffin on on the 1500 fake injuries but the couple times our guys did it, the refs were in Heupels ear about it.
 
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bignewt said:
Braves up 2-0 heading to LA. We've seen this story before. The series is so very far from being over.
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True….. this LA team is very different though…..very depleted with injuries with only 3 viable starters left and for whatever reason we keep using them as relievers… We can still win but going to need some luck along the way.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
People will and should have more patience with a roster reality like ours, but Dabo and those other annual top five recruiting programs that pile up talent like cordwood deserve zero patience from anybody...none.

They have zero excuse for having crappy play at several positions.
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They look terribly developed and coached right now considering the easy schedule they have.
 
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BJHSVol said:
That explanation makes zero sense. I get letting a play run out when whatever is questionable is reviewable like a knee being down or if a QBs arm is moving forward on a strip sack. But a major point of forward profess is player safety, the refs are supposed to call that immediately when they determine he’s stopped
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If he had gotten loose and ran for a TD I guaran-f'n-tee you that it would have counted.


Lying 🦬💩..a whole wagon load of it.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
People will and should have more patience with a roster reality like ours, but Dabo and those other annual top five recruiting programs that pile up talent like cordwood deserve zero patience from anybody...none.

They have zero excuse for having crappy play at several positions.
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It doesn’t take many injuries, misses in recruiting, guys leaving for the draft early for a team to struggle for a season or two…. Hopefully this is a downward trend for Clemson.
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
OK, I have the answer to our problem with officiating and address all of our guys who are banged up against Bama. Every single play when we are on offense, throw the ball at a different referee and hit them, or run the ball right at one of them and knock them down unintentionally. On defense, make it a point to run over one of them accidentally every play. You can do all of this with players from the bench. Then, let Danny White send Sankey a note and tell him this is what will happen every game when officials start intentionally making corrupt calls. Go all The Longest Yard on them!
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I'm going to piggyback on this and say we fake 30+ injuries on defense and make this game excruciating to follow. You want real change you go through Saban.
 
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volbeast33 said:
It doesn’t take many injuries, misses in recruiting, guys leaving for the draft early for a team to struggle for a season or two…. Hopefully this is a downward trend for Clemson.
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They have valid reason for losing to UGA...they have zero excuse for playing like runny 💩 in their other games...none.

Their coaching, especially Elliot and whoever their OL coach is..absolutely sucks.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
If he had gotten loose and ran for a TD I guaran-f'n-tee you that it would have counted.


Lying 🦬💩..a whole wagon load of it.
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Yep, they're lying is the simplest explanation.

In that game alone there were multiple times Corral was going down and threw the ball away and they didn't rule his 'forward progress had stopped'. If that wasn't a fumble then any time a player is knocked backwards and fumbles then it's not a fumble as their 'forward progress has stopped'.

There was no excuse or reasonable explanation for the call. They were either completely incompetent or intentionally cheating.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
And this is one of the many reasons why the fans are so mad. This "statement" is an absolute joke. It was a horrendous call that greatly affected the outcome of the game. And yet there is no accountability whatsoever. that same garbage crew will be out there on Saturday reffing another SEC game and TN just has to swallow the loss that wasn't and deal with it.

I'm so tired of this. It shouldn't be this way. But nothing will change
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in all fairness he was short on 4th and 24.

The issues at hand, as I saw them.

1) Egregious call to waive off scoop & score.
2) Throwing flags just to control the game. Officials shouldnt throw 100+ yards of penalties.
3) If you're going to call holding, be fair. Ole Miss held, a lot. It seems, and has always seemed that it gets called versus us in most crucial situations. Ie Hendon run for 21 gets called back...
4) Oh, and the flops. All the flops! 🤦🏼‍♂️

I dont actually think there is a fix. I do think Sankey et al do covet Bama, Florida, and GA and want to ensure they prosper for $.
 
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The worst part about Baron's scoop and score as they changed it to a non reviewable call. So the on field officials took the ability of the main SEC booth guys to even review it.

Why they didn't just leave it a called fumble/touchdown and THEN let them in the booth review it to call it forward progress stopped is beyond me.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
What's weird to me...later in the game Corral was wrapped up again on a sack, but was allowed to not only continue the play but throw it incomplete with his left hand.

Play that benefits us = forward progress stopped
Play that benefits them = no whistle & incomplete pass
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The fix was in...the bogus holding non-calls and calls were all you needed to know. I have believed for years that is how officials dictate outcomes.
 
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