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tnvols72 said:
Its moronic to think that Milton will be great and this is his second system and he looked bad in 2 of them. This is not his first year of football.
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Show me where I said "he will be great". I am only saying give him a year with a competent QB coach that has been successful developing college QB's before you label him a failure after 7 quarters. All you bunch of naysayers will be fighting to hang off of his jock if he becomes a competent

Harbaugh doesn't count because is not a great developer of QB's, Luck is a generational talent so take him off the list.
 
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itsme said:
Show me where I said "he will be great". I am only saying give him a year with a competent QB coach that has been successful developing college QB's before you label him a failure after 7 quarters. All you bunch of naysayers will be fighting to hang off of his jock if he becomes a competent

Harbaugh doesn't count because is not a great developer of QB's, Luck is a generational talent so take him off the list.
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So we give Heup credit for developing Locke, but Harbaugh gets none for developing Luck? OK...
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
Missouri's rushing defense to date -

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Week 1 vs Central Michigan (Sagarin rank #102)
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Week 2 at Kentucky (Sagarin rank #29)
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Week 3 vs Southeast Missouri State (Sagarin rank #183)
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Week 4 at Boston College (Sagarin rank #42)
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Yeah, I'm thinking 90-100 for Small, 90-100 for Evans, and 60-70 for Hooker. Throw in another 40-50 from Wright and receiver sweeps. Should be at least 280yds rushing.

If there was ever a game to bully a team on the ground and not throw much its this one.
 
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jakez4ut said:
well, if what he did against BGSU holds true, he'll take the path of least resistance. if they come out and really try to load up to stop the run, overload the box, he's gonna be 'weapons free' with the qb. if they sit back w/2 safeties deep, he's gonna feed 8 and 2, and run the qb.
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If I'm Mizzou that's exactly what I'd do. You have better athletes than BG and we still haven't shown the ability to consistently connect on the downfield throws due to inaccuracy and drops. Force Hooker/Miltom to beat you with their arms and do everything you can to stop the run.
 
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VolGee4 said:
I can't say that I follow the European Tour, but the article mentioned the twins and Victor Perez from France. But the article said that these guys aren't yet really primed for Ryder Cup golf, and there is far more young American talent than in Europe.
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You can only play 12 guys in the Ryder Cup :):)
 
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VolMike16 said:
People keep talking penalties...I don't mind penalties that are obviously gonna happen with tempo. Our players need to quit with the extra curricular and stupid personal foul penalties. Those are backbreaker penalties
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Agreed. It’s not hard to be disciplined enough not to get a personal foul. Those types hurt.
 
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BigSteve09 said:
Cooper is critical to our offense's success. Hope he's healthy and ready to roll.
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Can’t believe none of the other guys are smart enough to play Center…. I mean I’d rather have Cade Mays at Center if Cooper can’t go. Put Carvin at Guard and play someone else at the RT spot.

Carvins inability to go fast kills us.
 
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itsme said:
Show me where I said "he will be great". I am only saying give him a year with a competent QB coach that has been successful developing college QB's before you label him a failure after 7 quarters. All you bunch of naysayers will be fighting to hang off of his jock if he becomes a competent

Harbaugh doesn't count because is not a great developer of QB's, Luck is a generational talent so take him off the list.
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you said "Milton has the tools to be great "
So you must think he can be great. Milton is horrible. So his play at Michigan does not count because of Harbaugh? Looking for any excuse for Milton and blame anybody but Milton. I do not know anybody that thinks Milton is ever going to be competent except some on VN and you have been hanging off his jock from day and still hanging on for dear life.
 
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Vols4us said:
Not disagreeing. However, if it were me with the roster and talent we have today, I would be doing the opposite because I have a QB that needs it to be that way to be effective. One of the most prolific offenses in the NFL is run by the Titans. People can argue with that statement all they want, but since Tannehill started running the O, they have been near the top in many categories with Henry destroying defenses in the second half after they have worn them down in the first. They run first and go play action a lot. Since we have two good TE's and a run first style O-line, we might want to not reinvent the wheel and do it somewhat like that in our approach using Heup's scheme. It will give more time for the D to rest as well. JMO.
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addressed this in another post...and all i'm getting at here is that's what he wants to do. he's already shown, though, that he'll bag that and go with what the defense is giving him. i don't get the impression he's stubborn about it. but there is a method to how he wants to run the ball, and it's not to get 4 ypc on 1st down to open up the offense. it's to get 20 yards on 1st down, so he can run it down your throat later. he doesn't want the defense honest, he wants them guessing.

can he do that right now....? no. but that's where he wants to get to.
 
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BigSteve09 said:
I look at the Mizzou game as a must-win if we're going to go bowling this year. It would also be huge for the momentum of this year's team, and the program overall, to feel some success vs our perceived peer-programs in the league.
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We can't beat USCe and UK?

I call bollocks.

Would be a big step toward going bowling, but we have many avenues to get there. Hopefully we don't have to take the 2019 route, but if that's what it takes to make it to 6-6 or even 7-5 then lettuce.
 
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utvols88 said:
I don't think it's too far. I think he cut it right before the message would be diluted.

But with that, I hope that at some point today or tomorrow if he hasn't already, he sits down with the young man and lifts him up as well.
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It's not at all too far...for football. That's the weird thing though, verbally abusing players is fully accepted in that culture. If someone pulled that ish in the workplace or cursed your kid out in the classroom, not a single respectable soul would put up with that bs.
 
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MarcoVol said:
Not a coach’s fault if an SEC WR can’t catch the ball
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But when multiple guys suddenly seem to be worse at the same thing...idk. Feels like we need to get back to fundamentals.

Though I'm sure it doesn't help the WRs have been badly missed so often this year too. After awhile they probably are surprised when the ball actually comes right at them...
 
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volbeast33 said:
Small nugs: thinks Hooker is good to go….. he participated in all the strength training and conditioning today…. More than a few getting rehab and/or riding bikes on the side….. doesn’t think anything is serious and all of them has a chance to play Saturday…. Cooper was getting rehab today but he was walking well so hopefully he will be good to go.
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Great news. I think we beat Mizzou with a healthy Hendon Hooker and Cooper Mays. Or at least if the latter can play at 75% or better capacity for the game. Someone has probably mentioned it already, but BC was playing their second string QB against Mizzou, so I doubt that Mizzou wasn't trying to shut down the run against BC as they will against us. They just couldn't do it.
 
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