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Tennessee Golfer said:
It’s a PSK (post scrimmage kick) which changes the application of the rule. It’s different from an INT and then there’s two live ball penalties on either team. A lot of screwy things can happen on kicks.

Banks just needed to screen the defender. He clearly doesn’t have great awareness on the field. A true bull in the china shop.
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Ya admittedly that one is beyond me. Going to ask my white hat exactly how that one works. Just seems screwy to rekick once a return is in play.
 
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#9,157
volbeast33 said:
How quick do you bench someone? Bad series…. Bad game…. Rotate every play….. I have played and coached sports my entire life….. it’s extremely hard for me to have faith in a guy that can’t get it done in practice. I would have given him this shot today and have no problem going to hooker until he struggles…. Keep working Milton in practice bc he has the most upside.
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Milton is who he is. Two games in and he is the same player he was at Michigan. Can’t keep trying to fix an old dog when the old dog is growing.
 
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jave36 said:
Ya admittedly that one is beyond me. Going to ask my white hat exactly how that one works. Just seems screwy to rekick once a return is in play.
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It does seem odd but I don’t see how you would choose an enforcement spot for both penalties otherwise. Where do you officiate?
 
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vol9799 said:
Hooker is a better runner than Milton. Both are nothing but avg FBS QB's, which makes them below avg for the SEC, right now.

QB and pass def between the hashes are where we are bottom tier in the conference. This team should win 7 games even after giving this one away.

Honestly, I am most ashamed of the attendance. There were roughly 10k fewer TN fans there today vs last week. Shame on the no shows who could have been there (not everyone can) and shame on the AD for thinking they could charge an avg $75/ticket for a middle of the road non-conference game right now. Both sides have to do better, just like the coaches and players. We all lost together today.
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With what this fanbase has endured. They are lucky 80k we’re still coming. I blame no one who decided to stay at home and save their hard earned money.
 
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Alright, I'm just getting to the point where I've read the play-by-play, looked at stats, and watched highlights. (Missed the game while offshore, caught about 30 mahi)

Outcome: Not super upset by it. Defense needs to be better, but Pitt's QB is very talented. We scored plenty of points on Narduzzi's defense, and should've come away with more. Very proud of that. This was a game we had the chance to win at the end, and though we didn't win, it's a step in the right direction imo.

This was a textbook Maxims game. We got the blocked punt, but gave up 3 turnovers to Pitt's 0. That made all the difference imo.

I said it earlier this week, I think Hendon Hooker gives us the best chance to compete. Milton seemed to play better, and he definitely ran harder than last week. Hooker is still more dynamic as a runner, and he utilized the middle of the field more effectively (sans that INT, which wasn't great).

We missed Evans. Small and Wright ran well, but would've liked to have seen more chunk plays. I think Evans would've had some. I still assume Young didn't play. If he's as good as he's rumored to be, that really could've played a difference today.

So, again, overall I'm pretty pleased with what I've seen, just wish we were 2-0 instead. Defense needs to force more turnovers.
 
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orangesoda said:
Negative we have been a sh/t for 20 years!!!! Both could have stated a over and build from the ground up!!! We start over again in 3 years anyway
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Heupel has a 6-year contract that can automatically extend to 7 years depending on the sanctions. If we fire him before December 15, 2023, he gets his entire contract. It drops to 75% after that, and eventually to 50%. He is here for the long term.
 
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volatil said:
How did we have multiple plays with not enough video evidence? Meaning camera angles sucked.
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I didn’t understand that either. Why didn’t we have a camera shot on that far sideline? Didn’t have one for the Wright TD run or the Hooker first down. For the TD run, you could see the holes in the pylons for the cameras, but they never checked them. I’m watching this stupid MsState/NCState, and they have the pylon cams going.
 
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volbeast33 said:
How quick do you bench someone? Bad series…. Bad game…. Rotate every play….. I have played and coached sports my entire life….. it’s extremely hard for me to have faith in a guy that can’t get it done in practice. I would have given him this shot today and have no problem going to hooker until he struggles…. Keep working Milton in practice bc he has the most upside.
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Milton definitely has the most upside. I trashed Hooker initially. He was pretty consistent. Maybe consistency helps out the defense.
 
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Smyrna ATL Vol said:
Milton is who he is. Two games in and he is the same player he was at Michigan. Can’t keep trying to fix an old dog when the old dog is growing.
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Like I said he was 8-12 for over 100 yds with 1 TD if Hyatt makes the catch…. His inconsistency means you allow Hooker to prove he can be the guy but a QB guru shouldn’t give up on a talent like Milton.
 
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franklinpence said:
I didn’t understand that either. Why didn’t we have a camera shot on that far sideline? Didn’t have one for the Wright TD run or the Hooker first down. For the TD run, you could see the holes in the pylons for the cameras, but they never checked them. I’m watching this stupid MsState/NCState, and they have the pylon cams going.
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It’s amazing with all the technology and money available that we can’t have multiple angles at the the most crucial part of the field, the GOAL LINE! Officiating is hard enough live but when you have the capability to check and get the call right, DO IT!
 
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Girth Brooks said:
No. Once again, you’re wrong. If we want the ball, we decline their penalty and eat ours. If that’s not appetizing, you take the offsetting penalty and re-do the down.

We chose to run it out (that was the moment possession changed, so it does NOT revert back to where the ball was snapped), which led to the two penalties in the first place. That’s the main point being missed. We had stake in the outcome by making that choice. We could’ve let the ball land 5 yards short, like it would have, and took over at the 38. We didn’t.

You might want to back up and punt.
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No reason for me to back up and do anything just because you are both wrong and apparently a jerk. If your interpretation is correct, and I don't believe it is, then it is another example of a rule that TN has to suffer through to get fixed, circa UNC in the Music City Bowl and that piece of crap Alama Matthews & Jabar Gaffney, the team missing a field goal cannot regain possession because of a post miss penalty. That goes against every change of possession rule in football.
 
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theutvolunteers said:
Milton definitely has the most upside. I trashed Hooker initially. He was pretty consistent. Maybe consistency helps out the defense.
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If consistency means hitting wide open receivers I’ll take. He’s likely to throw more INT’s but I can handle that if he gets it to the playmakers most of the time. Hype called a great game cept the 4th down run. Nice to see an offensive game plan and 2nd half adjustments for once.
 
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Smyrna ATL Vol said:
No I wouldn’t. I’ve played sports all my life and through college. Some players are better in games than practice. When a player isn’t getting it done, you bench them and if the next guy is better, you don’t look back. Play the best who perform in games. Practice means s*** if you can’t bring it on game day. I guess you wouldn’t have played Allen Iverson.
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All day and all night. If this crew on here had not endured 4 years of #2 I could understand not getting the difference in a practice player and a gamer. Coaches who are more focused on process than winning never seem to learn the lesson of substance over style as well. I hope Heup proves he likes gamers better if given the choice.

Heup would scheme and call the game differently for each QB, so blaming the O-line when Coop and T-Evans were out is not the right answer. Heup still chose the least accurate passer, his guy, to start the game and miss a zillion open receivers in the first quarter before getting hurt despite knowing Coop and Evans were out. So he used his least accurate passer when the run game was probably not going to be as effective without Coop and Evans. Not judging, that's just a fact. That tells me Milton is on target in practice, but not so much in games, and Heup thought the practice performance would carry over better into the game than it did. Now he knows - two games in a row to go with his Michigan history. So now there are no more excuses for when it turns out the way if he keeps Milton as his guy. I hope Milton gets it. But I'm not willing to sit and watch a #2 debacle again. I suspect there are a lot of us that feel that way.
 
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