'22 TN DT Walter Nolen (Ole Miss)

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SamRebel35 said:
Third party perspective? I saw him in person at 330 lbs and compared it to film of him at 300 lbs. It is night and day difference. He's overweight and out of shape. That's a first person observation.

Leave out my criticism of his game play that I saw. I've conceded repeatedly that one bad game can happen to anyone.

Do you think no reasonably sound assumptions about one's dedication can be made by whether or not they show up in shape? If you showed up to your first day of work late, would your boss be reasonable to assume your dedication is lacking and that, at that point, your chances of panning out as an employee had decreased?
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You said other people think he's out of shape too. That is 3rd party perspective.

Good grief bro. You can make those assumptions all you want. Using them to make an estimate that he won't be drafted or will be a collegiate bust over the next 5 years is just plain silly. You need a new boss if yours makes a 5 year decision based on 20 minutes worth of information.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Of course I don't. Are you suggesting that somehow my knowing or not knowing him personally would have any bearing on his chances of being a "boom" or "bust"?
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Yes. Why? Because you don’t know him, you have no idea what’s going on in his life. Therefore, making ridiculous assumptions about his future based on conjecture is stupid honestly. I mean you are trying to make an argument about a player being a first round pick in his last year of HS when he just switched schools, moved to another place, learned a new system. Factor in that you don’t know his personal life. All this adds up to you just talking nonsense.

I mean so what if the guy doesn’t live up to a first round NFL grade in his last year of HS?
 
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Enki_Amenra said:
You said other people think he's out of shape too. That is 3rd party perspective.

Good grief bro. You can make those assumptions all you want. Using them to make an estimate that he won't be drafted or will be a collegiate bust over the next 5 years is just plain silly. You need a new boss if yours makes a 5 year decision based on 20 minutes worth of information.
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It can't possibly help his already slim chances. Do you disagree?
 
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
😂 you should probably get out of your little bubble of Tennessee every once in a while.
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Lol. Thanks for the life advice. I know you don't really care, but I've spent a quarter of my life outside of Tennessee and more than half my life away from Maryville. I only moved back once I had kids and wanted them to be around aunts, uncles, cousins, and grandparents. Guess that makes me a philistine.
 
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Dudleys87 said:
some of y’all hate on Sam for the same stuff y’all post in any JG thread..
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It's OK. He's a big name and might pick us. They're excited and I'm pissing in the punch bowl. I'll be glad to come into this thread three years from now and eat any and all crow being served up for my horribly stupid predictions.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
It's OK. He's a big name and might pick us. They're excited and I'm pissing in the punch bowl. I'll be glad to come into this thread three years from now and eat any and all crow being served up for my horribly stupid predictions.
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What is everyone so offended about? We all want Nolen. He has a chance to be great.

However, he does appear to be out of shape as observed in person by you, Swain, Ainge, Brian Rice, AP, and many of us that watched on stream. Why can’t we like him and want him but also comment on observations and be critical about it?

As for the statistics, it seems many people simply don’t understand them. Those numbers (17% and 50%) apply to the aggregate of all 5*s. That doesn’t just apply to Walter, it applies to all 5*s. Based on this stat, if you have say 20 5*s in any given year, 3 of them will likely be drafted in the 1st round and 10 of them total will likely be drafted. All things being equal, if a few of them don’t show equal dedication the. It makes sense that their chances will be lower than the others that show a greater level of dedication.

Btw, Swain specifically questioned his dedication spending the offseason school-shopping and not working more on conditioning.

And no, this doesn’t mean he’s going to be a bust or anyone is making a prediction of his future. It’s an observation and a discussion of his chances of success as a 5* based on established statistics
 
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BisonVol said:
AP said he was "super impressed" by Nolen last night on Outkick360. Hubbs said "Maryville has success running the ball last night because they ran wide and tried to run away from Nolen" and "when they ran at him, it wasn't very pretty". Added that Nolen was disruptive.

Strange how their takes are so much different from the guy who claimed Nolen wouldn't even play if he was at Maryville.
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This keeps getting missed.
 
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