Why Do We Still Not Know A QB? Concerning.

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NoogaVol423 said:
If you are worried about Bowling Green knowing your QB, holy *** we are in trouble.
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It aint just the BG game. This will go on longer then that. The real starter will be the guy that takes the snaps when we walk into the swamp which is 3 weeks after BG
 
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Impossible Girl said:
Regardless of who is named starter you still need depth, and with the new transfer rules you’ve got to handle these things right. Milton is the starter based on everything we’ve heard. That’s assuming he continues on that trajectory. The reality is you never know how a guy will respond to competition. Someone could bloom at the right time. All this hand wringing is pointless. We’ll have a starter soon enough.
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What we need are reps. CJH mentioned after the first scrimmage that pre-snap penalties were a concern. He mentioned recently the need for execution "from the whistle to the next snap" was important for this team. The coaches have talked about performing as a unit.

All of that hinges on having done a lot of reps together and getting used to a QBs particular cadence, the guy next to you's execution and will you need to help him out, the routes this WR runs vs another one...... lots of little things that come from having spent a lot of time as a unit.

The failure to have a first unit taking a lot of reps together will lead to execution penalties, QB and WR not being exactly on the same page about a route, a missed block, etc...... little things that add up.
 
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mitzustu said:
This would be plausible if we were playing a team that stood a chance to beat us. Bowling Green is horrible. Last season they were 0-5 and all of the losses were by 25+. None of them were against teams with our talent level. A mass of players transferred and they are replacing many of them with Freshmen. Anyone who thinks this first game will be competitive knows nothing of Bowling Green. This is not a Georgia State situation.... it's not close.

Any team that will be competition for us will see who we start in the first game and have time to prepare. It gives us no competitive advantage.
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Bro the 1st game wont tell you who the starter is. I suspect that this QB race will go up until FLA week. I believe all 3 guys will play in the 1st 3 games to figure this thing out against live competition
 
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NoogaVol423 said:
For starters, I am usually optimistic and still am.

CJH said this morning that “they will announce a starter when they feel like they’ve (QB) earned it.

Why does UT never announce a QB until 10 mins before kickoff? It seems like we are the only team in CFB who never has a clear cut starter.
It never turns out good when we play this game. What is the secret? Are all 3 not that great and you’re just picking at this point? Concerning that at least 1 of the bunch hasn’t stood out.

I hope I am wrong, but it is never good when you don't know who is leading your team, 10 days before kickoff.
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Not concerning at all. We have a guy who just got here AFTER the Spring game competing for the starting job against another 5* QB and a guy that has some serious experience. Plus Huepel wants as much competition as possible. I would imagine Huepel would continue that competition and give them every last possible day to separate and the guys would need it.
 
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This thread has made it abundantly clear who has really been part of a football team and who has just been a fan or a maybe bench rider that didn't really pay attention from the sidelines. I'll trust the former Heisman runner-up QB who has had great success specifically coaching QBs to handle this.
 
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901 Orange said:
It aint just the BG game. This will go on longer then that. The real starter will be the guy that takes the snaps when we walk into the swamp which is 3 weeks after BG
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Using a decoy QB against Pitt so Florida doesn’t have film is a sure fire way to lose to Pitt, and also Florida because QB1 isn’t getting all the game reps. The starting QB needs to be building chemistry and experience as early as possible which is the BG game.
 
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NoogaVol423 said:
For starters, I am usually optimistic and still am.

CJH said this morning that “they will announce a starter when they feel like they’ve (QB) earned it.

Why does UT never announce a QB until 10 mins before kickoff? It seems like we are the only team in CFB who never has a clear cut starter.
It never turns out good when we play this game. What is the secret? Are all 3 not that great and you’re just picking at this point? Concerning that at least 1 of the bunch hasn’t stood out.

I hope I am wrong, but it is never good when you don't know who is leading your team, 10 days before kickoff.
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The coach speak is in bold. I'm splitting hairs a bit here, but just because they haven't announced QB1 publicly doesn't mean that they haven't made the choice. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that it's going to be Milton and they know it.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
What we need are reps. CJH mentioned after the first scrimmage that pre-snap penalties were a concern. He mentioned recently the need for execution "from the whistle to the next snap" was important for this team. The coaches have talked about performing as a unit.

All of that hinges on having done a lot of reps together and getting used to a QBs particular cadence, the guy next to you's execution and will you need to help him out, the routes this WR runs vs another one...... lots of little things that come from having spent a lot of time as a unit.

The failure to have a first unit taking a lot of reps together will lead to execution penalties, QB and WR not being exactly on the same page about a route, a missed block, etc...... little things that add up.
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The problem with your statement is that those in the know say Milton is clearly getting the majority of reps and is going to be the starter. What CJH does or doesn’t tell the media is 100% meaningless. That doesn’t mean you can stop preparing the other guys. Surely you’ve seen the number of QBs go down across the country.
 
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I started the season pulling for Bailey, not really knowing anything other than what I have read on this board about how he would break all of Mannings records. I think the coaching staff knows a lot more than me.
 
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Impossible Girl said:
The problem with your statement is that those in the know say Milton is clearly getting the majority of reps and is going to be the starter. What CJH does or doesn’t tell the media is 100% meaningless. That doesn’t mean you can stop preparing the other guys. Surely you’ve seen the number of QBs go down across the country.
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Sure, Milton IS QB1 and has been for quite awhile. What's going on is Heupel avoiding making it official because of the next question: who is QB2?

When/if Bailey is pushed to QB3, Heupel has to worry about him hitting the portal so he's saying as little as possible about the QB competition. If he could depend on Bailey staying, we'd have the QB named. He can't..... and here we are.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Sure, Milton IS QB1 and has been for quite awhile. What's going on is Heupel avoiding making it official because of the next question: who is QB2?

When/if Bailey is pushed to QB3, Heupel has to worry about him hitting the portal so he's saying as little as possible about the QB competition. If he could depend on Bailey staying, we'd have the QB named. He can't..... and here we are.
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Absolutely. He’s navigating hurt feelings.
 
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I think folks sweating who is named starting Qb needs to leave it to the coaches. We will know soon enough. I am glad he isn't letting the media or the fans force his decision. He will make it when he makes it!!!! GBO!!!!!
 
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Could this mean that the starter is just that, the first guy on the field. Meaning he is just the "first" guy to play QB on offensive in this game and may or may no be the first guy for any other game? What I'm trying to say is will there be no "starter" per say. Could it be that the team we play will dictate the guy on the field when the game starts. Each of our QB's seem to have a little different skill set that the situation during the game could require a different guy. Just saying, if coach H is the guy for offense we think he is, it would seem to me he will play the guy best suited for the situation.
 
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Impossible Girl said:
Absolutely. He’s navigating hurt feelings.
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Maurer leaving put UT in a bit of a spot. If Bailey decides to hit the portal, we're down to 2 QBs and that's not a good place.

I'm old. The portal sucks. I get it that players have been screwed over for generations by being stuck at a team when they got recruited over but the portal still sucks. JMO.
 
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Just as we assume it's Milton, our opponents will also be preparing for him. I think it's partially not to lose anymore players, but maybe it is that close
 
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VolForLife83 said:
Just as we assume it's Milton, our opponents will also be preparing for him. I think it's partially not to lose anymore players, but maybe it is that close
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I don't buy the player part. I don't think anyone could have or should have predicted Maurer's truly stupid move. He gained nothing and probably cost himself a lot. If you were a coach looking for a QB... would you want a guy who threw a tantrum and quit his last team in August? He hurt his chances of finding a good gig by overreacting emotionally.

I don't think any of the other 3 will make that kind of bad decision.


The messaging all along has been that the guy who earns more reps and earns the position will get them. They're not saying the competition is closed... and that may be true. But Milton is apparently getting the greater share of the #1 reps. It is his job to lose now. The #2 spot seems to still be up in the air. That becomes really important because there should be a lot of reps for #2 and the first shot if Milton doesn't work out.
 
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NoogaVol423 said:
For starters, I am usually optimistic and still am.

CJH said this morning that “they will announce a starter when they feel like they’ve (QB) earned it.

Why does UT never announce a QB until 10 mins before kickoff? It seems like we are the only team in CFB who never has a clear cut starter.
It never turns out good when we play this game. What is the secret? Are all 3 not that great and you’re just picking at this point? Concerning that at least 1 of the bunch hasn’t stood out.

I hope I am wrong, but it is never good when you don't know who is leading your team, 10 days before kickoff.
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Not too concerned. I have hope CJH can be the one to turn this program around.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Maurer leaving put UT in a bit of a spot. If Bailey decides to hit the portal, we're down to 2 QBs and that's not a good place.

I'm old. The portal sucks. I get it that players have been screwed over for generations by being stuck at a team when they got recruited over but the portal still sucks. JMO.
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Leaving at this point affords them nothing as they won’t be eligible until next year.
 
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sjt18 said:
I don't buy the player part. I don't think anyone could have or should have predicted Maurer's truly stupid move. He gained nothing and probably cost himself a lot. If you were a coach looking for a QB... would you want a guy who threw a tantrum and quit his last team in August? He hurt his chances of finding a good gig by overreacting emotionally.

I don't think any of the other 3 will make that kind of bad decision.


The messaging all along has been that the guy who earns more reps and earns the position will get them. They're not saying the competition is closed... and that may be true. But Milton is apparently getting the greater share of the #1 reps. It is his job to lose now. The #2 spot seems to still be up in the air. That becomes really important because there should be a lot of reps for #2 and the first shot if Milton doesn't work out.
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That's what is interesting in observing Heupel. I'm not EXACTLY sure what's in it for him to keep hearing the same dang question: who is QB1? when it's pretty obvious it's Milton and I don't see a downside in answering "QB1 = Milton and the competition for QB2 is a good thing for us."

Maybe he just doesn't want to answer and that says something about his personality (not judging, just observing) but it seems odd.

As I said elsewhere, if the Knox media would phrase it like, "Okay, it's obvious Milton is QB1, so can you tell us about the QB2 competition....." and box him in to denying Milton is QB1, I'd like to see his reaction. But the Knox media is weak.
 
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Impossible Girl said:
Leaving at this point affords them nothing as they won’t be eligible until next year.
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Oh, I know, but Maurer still put UT in a tough spot, even if he won't be eligible.

I saw some talk that Bailey could transfer, redshirt elsewhere and still practice with a new team, then be ready for next year. If he's not going to play here and wants to transfer, that might be an option.

Again, nobody wants to see that and I think the portal should have a definite cutoff to avoid that sort of thing.
 
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People need to stop with the smokescreen theories. Occam's Razor is in play here. The simplest reason for why a QB has not been named is because there isn't a QB worth definitively naming QB1.
 
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