Coronavirus (No politics)

[OldandStillaVol]

Cases are not concerning. Hospitalizations and death are. Young people are not being hospitalized at any significant rate and more children have died from seasonal flu than covid.

The rate of serious cases in young children may not be different for Delta but if the total N of children who get infected is going up greatly, you have an issue at the hospitals.

And yes, I think all young children should be vaccinated against seasonal flu because it could be dangerous for them.

 

[utvolpj]

The rate of serious cases in young children may not be different for Delta but if the total N of children who get infected is going up greatly, you have an issue at the hospitals.

And yes, I think all young children should be vaccinated against seasonal flu because it could be dangerous for them.

Why is there an issue if the kids aren't seriously ill? There's no need to go to the hospital in that case

 

[johnboyhunter]

I absolutely love the fact that you ignored the last part of my post that you quoted, but that's cool. There is absolutely no reasoning with someone like you, but hey that's cool too. To each their own man. You are still also trying to force "facts" on me that are being fed to you by officials.

Do you consider health care professionals “officials”. I’m not talking about the CDC. I guess facts don’t matter about who is in the ICU and who is dying .

 

[johnboyhunter]

Why is there an issue if the kids aren't seriously ill? There's no need to go to the hospital in that case

Zero ICU beds for pediatrics in Dallas County. That’s an issue if your kid gets injured and needs that bed don’t you think.?

 

[utvolpj]

Zero ICU beds for pediatrics in Dallas County. That’s an issue if your kid gets injured and needs that bed don’t you think.?

I was responding to the post that claimed kids weren't getting seriously ill yet were impacting hospitals. It can't be both

 

[NO SIR EEE]

Do you consider health care professionals “officials”. I’m not talking about the CDC. I guess facts don’t matter about who is in the ICU and who is dying .

I was responding to a post that had nothing to do with you. Where'd you come from bucko?

 

[johnboyhunter]

Why do people pay money for lottery tickets? For the one in a hundreds of millions of chances of hitting the jackpot. (Pretty bad odds)

Why don’t some people get vaccinated? Because they think they are 99.5% unlikely to die from it. Those are good odds, but why take the risk with that (0.05%) for a shot this is free. Your odds of feeling like crap are probably in the double digits, being hospitalized maybe a little less.

Like my wife says, taking the shot is like being with me in bed. You can barely feel it go in and it’s over before you know it.

 

[NO SIR EEE]

Why do people pay money for lottery tickets? For the one in a hundreds of millions of chances of hitting the jackpot. (Pretty bad odds)

Why don’t some people get vaccinated? Because they think they are 99.5% unlikely to die from it. Those are good odds, but why take the risk with that (0.05%) for a shot this is free. Your odds of feeling like crap are probably in the double digits, being hospitalized maybe a little less.

Like my wife says, taking the shot is like being with me in bed. You can barely feel it go in and it’s over before you know it.

This is what I was talking about though. You are preaching about the vaccine. I'm not taking it.

 

[johnboyhunter]

I was responding to a post that had nothing to do with you. Where'd you come from bucko?

It is a forum where anyone can respond to anything. Would you happen to work in healthcare and interact with these medical professionals on a daily basis? Ever been in a COVID unit?

 

[NO SIR EEE]

It is a forum where anyone can respond to anything. Would you happen to work in healthcare and interact with these medical professionals on a daily basis? Ever been in a COVID unit?

No I do not work in healthcare, nor have I been in a covid unit. No matter what you say, you're not gonna convince me to go get this glorious vaccine.

 

[johnboyhunter]

This is what I was talking about though. You are preaching about the vaccine. I'm not taking it.

You have the freedom to do that but it is those exercising this freedoms that is perpetuating this pandemic and causing a lot of pain. Eventually that exercise of freedom is going to cost folks because it will be required by employers (that’s happening now) and other restrictions like travel.

 

[NO SIR EEE]

You have the freedom to do that but it is those exercising this freedoms that is perpetuating this pandemic and causing a lot of pain. Eventually that exercise of freedom is going to cost folks because it will be required by employers (that’s happening now) and other restrictions like travel.

If my employer ever requires it, then I walk. There are plenty of outlets to make money.

 

[johnboyhunter]

No I do not work in healthcare, nor have I been in a covid unit. No matter what you say, you're not gonna convince me to go get this glorious vaccine.

It is a glorious vaccine and I am passionate about it cause I do see it firsthand. It’s awful and it is scary. Not because the government has scared me because I see it with my own eyes. Folks who are healthy before and in their 30s needing double lung transplants is a sad, sad thing.

 

[NO SIR EEE]

It is a glorious vaccine and I am passionate about it cause I do see it firsthand. It’s awful and it is scary. Not because the government has scared me because I see it with my own eyes. Folks who are healthy before and in their 30s needing double lung transplants is a sad, sad thing.

That is sad, and my prayers go out to all that are going through this. Understand this though, the vaccination is no guarantee to give anyone 100 percent immunity. I will not get the vaccination for more reasons than that. Don't attack me though because I've made that choice. It's goofy.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

If my employer ever requires it, then I walk. There are plenty of outlets to make money.

My wife will likely be losing her job next month. If they go through with it, they're going to lose one of their best nurses over a vaccine that she doesn't need. We're okay with it. Their loss.

If hospitals follow through with that and end up firing thousands and thousands of hospital workers, you think the hospitals are at a crises now? What's it going to be like when they lose all that staff?

Thankfully some companies are wising up

American, Delta and Southwest airlines workers not required to get COVID-19 vaccine

 

[GAVol]

I worked at Wendy's when they had the salad bar. One of my jobs was cleaning the sneeze shield. You know why they had a sneeze shield? Cause it was a simple thing to help keep people's germs off the food.

Perfect example… the sneeze shield keeps MOST of the snot away. I guarantee you that some of those croutons weren’t legit though.

 

[NO SIR EEE]

My wife will likely be losing her job next month. If they go through with it, they're going to lose one of their best nurses over a vaccine that she doesn't need. We're okay with it. Their loss.

If hospitals follow through with that and end up firing thousands and thousands of hospital workers, you think the hospitals are at crises now? What's it going to be like when they lose all that staff?

Thankfully some companies are wising up

American, Delta and Southwest airlines workers not required to get COVID-19 vaccine

A small part of me hopes that thousands do walk, so I can watch these employers kick themselves in the asses everyday for being complete jackasses.

 

[Brave Volunteer]

My wife will likely be losing her job next month. If they go through with it, they're going to lose one of their best nurses over a vaccine that she doesn't need. We're okay with it. Their loss.

If hospitals follow through with that and end up firing thousands and thousands of hospital workers, you think the hospitals are at a crises now? What's it going to be like when they lose all that staff?

Thankfully some companies are wising up

American, Delta and Southwest airlines workers not required to get COVID-19 vaccine

In my opinion, they aren't the ones who need wising up.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

A small part of me hopes that thousands do walk, so I can watch these employers kick themselves in the asses everyday for being complete jackasses.

Yeah I don't believe they'll let that happen. Hospitals are understaffed as it is and they are trying to hire new nurses all the time. If they don't cave and give in to the mandate, there's no way they'll fire them all. Not only will they be understaffed, but the quality of care would suffer greatly. No one should want that over a vaccine that the vast majority do not need. Shoot, my wife just had her second antibodies test. Tested positive the first time in December. Took another antibody test last week, positive again. She has antibodies. She is young and healthy. She doesn't need the vaccine. But they're going to try and fire her for not taking it. And many sheep on here think that is right and good. It's unbelievable really.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Why do people pay money for lottery tickets? For the one in a hundreds of millions of chances of hitting the jackpot. (Pretty bad odds)

Why don’t some people get vaccinated? Because they think they are 99.5% unlikely to die from it. Those are good odds, but why take the risk with that (0.05%) for a shot this is free. Your odds of feeling like crap are probably in the double digits, being hospitalized maybe a little less.

Like my wife says, taking the shot is like being with me in bed. You can barely feel it go in and it’s over before you know it.

Let me use your argument against you. Sure, the risk is low from dying or having a bad reaction to the vaccine (as far as we know with no long term studies), but why take that risk when I've got a 1 in a hundred million chance of dying from the virus?

No thanks on the Myocarditis. I'm good with my 99.98% survival rate for the virus. Probably higher even than that since I've got antibodies already.

 

[BigALWiLson]

It’s funny how no one will recognize that a good portion of those Natives did their absolute best to slaughter and rape every European they could find

Wouldn't you fight, when they were taking your lands treating you like barbarians and killing your people not to mention raping their women and Starving you out? Europeans were not owed this land. They took it. It is history. They didn't come here armed looking to share.

 

[jp1]

Posting a chart from the cdc showing hospitalizations are nowhere near the peak of COVID, and that it’s not happening with young people in spite of the lies, is not confirming my bias. It’s a fact.

People are panicking tho and even facts don’t help.

I'm not sure what you are calling "young people", but in my pediatric hospital we have had 3 times the admissions in the last 3 weeks as we have had from Jan 2020 to June 2021. Our numbers are still relatively low in the grand scheme of things, but what I just typed is 100% fact.

 

[OldandStillaVol]

Why is there an issue if the kids aren't seriously ill? There's no need to go to the hospital in that case

Sorry I wasn’t clear. I don’t think the Delta is causing more issues in kids than the original Covid. But it is definitely more contagious. The rate is small but there is some percentage of kids who suffer serious complications with Covid. So if only xxx, kids got Covid before, then multiplying xx by the small percentage is a small number. No issue for hospitals. But if zzz kids now get delta Covid, and zzz is much larger than

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

I'm not sure what you are calling "young people", but in my pediatric hospital we have had 3 times the admissions in the last 3 weeks as we have had from Jan 2020 to June 2021. Our numbers are still relatively low in the grand scheme of things, but what I just typed is 100% fact.

Again, while there may be some hospitals experiencing some surges, look at this chart. It is directly from the CDC. Notice the line. It has not moved since covid began. The risk for children is still extremely low. More children died in the 2018-19 flu season than have died from covid in a year and a half. Nobody panicked.

 

[OldandStillaVol]

Sorry, didn’t finish.
xxx, then the number of kids needing hospitalization becomes larger and a potential problem.

Here in Tampa, I know the doctors at Johns Hopkins Children in St. Pete were getting worried last week.