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#6,978
vollygirl said:
You don't know the vaccine has dire effects. The process they used isn't new.
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I'm pretty sure most vaccines are not rushed like this. Don't they usually take years and many trials before they are given to the general public?

I'm not against the vaccine. I was going to get it today. I'm a federal employee, so I'll probably be forced to get it anyway
 
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vols 30 said:
I'm pretty sure most vaccines are not rushed like this. Don't they usually take years and many trials before they are given to the general public?

I'm not against the vaccine. I was going to get it today. I'm a federal employee, so I'll probably be forced to get it anyway
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The whole world worked on this vaccine. But you can't speed up time, so whatever.
 
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45FC287F-CF51-48BC-9930-F7EB9533CA35.png45FC287F-CF51-48BC-9930-F7EB9533CA35.png3FF02114-7A57-46D8-A6C6-6CA4F8334225.png. Get a load of this stupidity check out the ridiculous and false comments by the Micheal Bennett guy and man color me shocked he’s a Bammer lol
 
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vols 30 said:
I'm pretty sure most vaccines are not rushed like this. Don't they usually take years and many trials before they are given to the general public?

I'm not against the vaccine. I was going to get it today. I'm a federal employee, so I'll probably be forced to get it anyway
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This is my boss's sister-in-law's post today. If you don't remember, his father-in-law got the vaccine cause he had bypass surgery last spring. Mother-in-law didn't because they didn't believe in it.

This family is going through hell right now.

Update 8-6-21: 5:30 pm

I got an urgent message from mom early this afternoon, telling me they were discharging her from the hospital today. One of the respiratory workers had told her this out of the blue when she was checking her machine settings.

This lead me to make a flurry of phone calls- and after a call to her nurse asking what in the world is going on, I was told they are wanting to transfer her to *** and that a spot opened up today.

I kinda frantically explained I didn’t think mom was ready- she’s only had her vapotherm turned down to 40L @ 75% for 3 days- today it's back up to 80%. How do they know she can maintain that or is stable enough.

She relayed my message to the doctor. The doctor called me, and said that after my call he was not going to release her today and would do a reassessment today. But that maybe tomorrow she will be transferred.

This was sprung on us very suddenly and I expressed all of the different concerns we have about her being booted out. She only just started to show some progress on Tuesday- it seems sudden to want to transfer her already. How do they know she can maintain that progress, etc.

Anyway, when I told my mom about this she was very dismayed. Her impression of *** was that it’s a place where they send you to maintain and make you comfortable but not get better. Of course this is the last thing we would want.

After a call to my aunt, who is a nurse, she said she would ask around the hospital where she works and see what she could find out about it. I also got a call from the *** liaison during this time. After talking to the Liaison, my Aunt called back.

Longer story slightly shorter, after multiple calls and conversations, I feel a little more peace about it if she does end up going to ***.

My aunt really likes the pulmonologist that runs the place there- says he is the best in town. And after talking to the liaison too, I feel a little more comfortable, but still uncertain if she is ready.

*** is for longer term acute rehabilitation. They would do oxygen therapy, physical therapy, and their goal is to get them to a place where they can go home. And they allow two visitors per day down there, so that would be a blessing too.

The uncertain part: Mom's pulmonologist here just came in. They did a repeat X-ray today. He said it isn't showing much change. He called it fibrosis. I don't know if that is something that could get better over time or not. Praying so.

Also, after the doctor left and after eating her dinner tonight, she had a coughing spell and her SAT levels dropped into the 70’s for several minutes. The nurses rushed down, had her try taking deep breaths, but ultimately they had to turn her O2 levels back up to 90%, then to 100% for her to recover. They also had to put the non-rebreather mask back on her. After about 5-7 minutes she got her levels back into the 90’s and they took the mask off and turned the machine down to 75%.

So, after the flurry of calls and crisis activity, I don’t know where this leaves us as far as being transferred or not. From my understanding, at *** they want your oxygen needs to be no higher than 70-80%.

I don’t know what to ask prayer for specifically. Always we are praying for healing in her lungs. Also now, I guess, pray for wisdom for the doctors to do the best thing for mom. With the rush today, I kinda felt they were trying to get her out of here for the bed, but before she is fully ready. Pray that I will know when to advocate and when to comply. It is such a hard balance and a hard task when you feel ill equipped with the necessary knowledge on what kind of decision to make.

The ups and downs continue. It is emotionally exhausting for us all.

Thank you for praying. ❤️
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I don't know what long term effects Nancy would be dealing with from the vaccine. But I don't believe she and her family would be going through this.

I continue to pray everyone makes the right decision. Because that's all I can do.
 
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University of Florida requiring masks at all times indoors for all students effective today. Yesterday Bama returns to 2020 protocols.

Another crazy stat. The season was nearly cancelled last year.

Cases on Aug 5 2020: 53k
Cases on Aug 5 2021: 125k

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mad4vols said:
This is why it’s important to get vaccinated even if you have already had Covid. People who were not vaccinated had 2.34 times the odds of reinfection compared with those who were fully vaccinated.

MMWR report from Kentucky with matched cohorts demonstrate more than double the likelihood of reinfection after survival from COVID-19 if not vaccinated.


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Reduced Risk of Reinfection with SARS-CoV-2 After COVID-19...
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https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/pdfs/mm7032e1-H.pdf
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I looked through but it didn't jump out at me. What were the odds of having Covid, being vaccinated, and then getting infected again? The article says those that have only had Covid are 2.34 times more likely to have a reinfection than those that have had Covid and been vaccinated.

But 2.34 times what? If the chances of getting Covid after having it and being vaccinated are 1 out of every 10000, then 2.34 times that isn't significant a chance. If it's 400/1000 then 2.34 times is a quite different risk.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
You know that was debunked as false and outright lies, right?
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What was? The story about Israel? I haven't seen that. But that Dr didn't say it was, he said "if this holds true and is verfied..." but he's worried about mass vaccinations actually causing more mutations which may be why we're seeing surges in vaccinated countries. I saw a lot last night about other countries, not Israel, that are seeing surges even though they are majority vaccinated.
 
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Go aeiou said:
Do some research on him. Mr. Misinformation.
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It seems like everyone who doesn't simply follow the mainstream narrative is referred to as misinformation. This is a guy who invented MRNA vaccines but because he isn't going along, he's now considered misinformation or untrustworthy. Don't think so
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
What was? The story about Israel? I haven't seen that. But that Dr didn't say it was, he said "if this holds true and is verfied..." but he's worried about mass vaccinations actually causing more mutations which may be why we're seeing surges in vaccinated countries. I saw a lot last night about other countries, not Israel, that are seeing surges even though they are majority vaccinated.
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No he’s not.
That’s a gross misrepresentation.
In a country where the overwhelming majority has been vaccinated (85-90%) and those getting sick with breakthrough infection are 95% elderly, the fear is that the vaccine is weakening and may need to be altered or bolstered. The fear is absolutely not that the vaccine is causing the problem.
The mutation rate is actually slower than historically recorded events like the Spanish flu.

But please continue with the out of context and often wrong information that keeps getting reposted
 
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#6,998
Bassmaster_Vol said:
It seems like everyone who doesn't simply follow the mainstream narrative is referred to as misinformation. This is a guy who invented MRNA vaccines but because he isn't going along, he's now considered misinformation or untrustworthy. Don't think so
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The guy makes the claim of being the inventor. Others in the process see it differently
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
No he’s not.
That’s a gross misrepresentation.
In a country where the overwhelming majority has been vaccinated (85-90%) and those getting sick with breakthrough infection are 95% elderly, the fear is that the vaccine is weakening and may need to be altered or bolstered. The fear is absolutely not that the vaccine is causing the problem.
The mutation rate is actually slower than historically recorded events like the Spanish flu.

But please continue with the out of context and often wrong information that keeps getting reposted
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This is what I'm referring to. It is not out of context, and is not misleading:

Biden team’s misguided and deadly COVID-19 vaccine strategy

But please continue assuming you know everything, including more than one of the leading minds on vaccines in all the world.
 
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