Coronavirus (No politics)

Having trouble finding flu vaccine deaths...but last number i found was less then 100....for covid vax its over 1000....and that doesnt include those paralyzed and other forever effects from the covid vax...so tell me why a 18 to 22 year old with a 99.8% chnace od survial should vax and risk other effects for a 99.9 % chance of living..

1,000 deaths from a COVID vaccine is complete bullish!t
 
This has actually been corrected in your linked article to 60% of hospitalizations being from those who are completely unvaccinated. Out of about 15% of the British population above 18 who have not been vaccinated. So 15% account for 60 percent of hospitalizations, whereas 85 percent who have received at least one dose account for 40 percent. Do the math and it means that the hospitalization rate for completely unvaccinated is over 8x higher than people who have received at least one dose. The vaccines are effective. Assuming no long term effects are noted, the vaccines are, to this point, life savers.

Trying math with the anti vax community. Good luck with that.
 
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The thread was intended to be about what teams are 80% or more vaccinated and which are not and that games will not be rescheduled. There are several threads over in Politics about how effective the vaccine is, etc.
 
Over the years, I’ve come to realize that with the right to think and speak freely also comes the right to be stupid. It is unfortunate that you cannot have one without the other, but that is far better than the alternative.
Probably some checks and balances happening naturally, too. Not all of the time, but often enough not to censor anyone. Lets not censor anyone. Good rule.
 
The issue really shouldn't be a question of getting infected. No vaccine is 100%, and we know that the current vaccines aren't as effective against the delta variant as they are against the first couple of strains. What we hope is that the vaccines reduce the likelihood of hospitalizations and death. According to the corrected article, 60% of hospitalizations are unvaccinated folks. In the UK, just over 30% of the population remains unvaxxed. So, clearly, the vaccines are not perfect. But the greater risk exists for those that remain unvaccinated.

The first problem is a lot of things coming from people in charge are a lie. And it's hard to trust anything when they lie about even the most simple of things.

Example: The COVID vaccine is not a vaccine. That's why people are still getting COVID who have been "vaccinated", but no one is walking around with polio. Whether or not anyone else is vaccinated for polio or not, if I'm vaccinated, I'm not getting polio.

As such, I find it difficult to trust anything coming from anybody. I don't like that either. I miss having institutions I can trust.

In the meantime, when someone asks, I tell them "I identify as vaccinated".
 
Young and healthy let them play. Move on from this fear mongering.

I logged in just to reply to this comment. Anyone who believes concern about COVID is "fear-mongering" needs to take a look at the refrigerated trucks used in a number of cities to hold the bodies of the dead, because the morgues were full.

And then they need to look at the latest statistics, showing rising case numbers and positivity rates across the country (and especially in certain states).

And then they also need to note that 98% of the current hospitalizations are people who are unvaccinated.

And finally, they need to note that the median age of those hospitalizations is trending younger and younger, with more and more young adults showing up with serious COVID cases.

Frankly, considering the close contact and the amount of both exhaled air and slung spit happening in a football game, I'm surprised that Sankey is just shooting for 80%.
 
Over the years, I’ve come to realize that with the right to think and speak freely also comes the right to be stupid. It is unfortunate that you cannot have one without the other, but that is far better than the alternative.

The right to be stupid was man's first right ever granted.

It occurred the moment Adam wouldn't admit to being wrong for something to Eve. Now we're all stuck apologizing for his mortal sin.
 
Yankees had to postpone 2 games this week with Boston over 3 positive tests. All 3 had been vaccinated

5 Texas Democrat legislators tested positive. All were vaccinated.

Yeah, but they were vaccinated with Johnson & Johnson which is waste of time.

Get one of the two messenger RNA vaccines. They both safely protect 9 out of 10 people.
 
The first problem is a lot of things coming from people in charge are a lie. And it's hard to trust anything when they lie about even the most simple of things.

Example: The COVID vaccine is not a vaccine. That's why people are still getting COVID who have been "vaccinated", but no one is walking around with polio. Whether or not anyone else is vaccinated for polio or not, if I'm vaccinated, I'm not getting polio.

As such, I find it difficult to trust anything coming from anybody. I don't like that either. I miss having institutions I can trust.

In the meantime, when someone asks, I tell them "I identify as vaccinated".

You're going to have trouble backing up your definition of "vaccine." By that definition, there has never been a true vaccine. The polio vaccine has never been 100%.
 
Not only that but you get the vaccine and you still get covid and are apt to die. Why get the shot??????
Wrong. If the conspiracy theorists and tin foil cap wearing fools would’ve got the vaccine months ago we wouldn’t be back in this mess. And the longer this goes on with so many still unvaccinated in this country it gives this virus more time to further mutate into more severe strains ones that could completely render the vaccines useless. I expect this to continue into 2024 probaly and it shouldn’t have to.
 
Sadly, there are idiots who will believe this as strongly as they believe Trump will be re-instated by September
But if I know two people personally that died due from getting the shot, then how many people are out there like me that may know someone. 1,000 people dying isn’t a lot when you compare it to the amount of people that is in the United States or the World.
 
But if I know two people personally that died due from getting the shot, then how many people are out there like me that may know someone. 1,000 people dying isn’t a lot when you compare it to the amount of people that is in the United States or the World.

Can you provide a link to any of that?
 
I'm with all that the original face says about the covid and the shots.Just get the two and go on.You get the flu shot and you can still get the flu.So why bother?The getting it will be less virilent(save your blue pills).Others used to say the earth was flat,maybe these hoo hahs could falloff the edge with their bulls..t.
 
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