Coronavirus (No politics)

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utvols83 said:
Tell me how it's not true when I personally know of seven kids who currently are getting over it, one of which spent two days at Children's Healthcare of Atlanta, all from being together for just a few hours while one of them had it but had yet to show symptoms. Children are much more susceptible to the Delta variant. Every single one of these kids ran over 102 fever and were legitimately sick...not just the sniffles. Maybe you misinterpreted my post, otherwise you should tell me what I said that isn't true.
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Your small sample size does not reflect the overall trend around the country or world. Children continue to have a very low rate of even moderate illness, and severe illness remains exceedingly uncommon.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Your small sample size does not reflect the overall trend around the country or world. Children continue to have a very low rate of even moderate illness, and severe illness remains exceedingly uncommon.
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My small sample size showing that children are more susceptible to Delta than previous variants? Seems to match up with countless reports. Having a lower rate of illness compared to adults doesn't negate the fact that the Delta variant is affecting children more than other variants.

Delta variant poses more serious risk to unvaccinated people, including kids, doctors say
 
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utvols83 said:
My small sample size showing that children are more susceptible to Delta than previous variants? Seems to match up with countless reports. Having a lower rate of illness compared to adults doesn't negate the fact that the Delta variant is affecting children more than other variants.

Delta variant poses more serious risk to unvaccinated people, including kids, doctors say
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It would help if you shared the chart of overall cases instead of relying on fear porn talking about percentages. After all, things like moving from 1 to 2 is a 100% increase.

For reference, the delta variant that is "crushing" us, or "spreading fast", or "ripping through the population" is producing this massive surge on the charts.

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ButchPlz said:
It would help if you shared the chart of overall cases instead of relying on fear porn talking about percentages. After all, things like moving from 1 to 2 is a 100% increase.

For reference, the delta variant that is "crushing" us, or "spreading fast", or "ripping through the population" is producing this massive surge on the charts.

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That stat is over 4 months old. Talk about misleading.
Not really taking sides, but USA new cases yesterday were about 23k with the 7 day avg being g about 16k.
 
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Go aeiou said:
That stat is over 4 months old. Talk about misleading.
Not really taking sides, but USA new cases yesterday were about 23k with the 7 day avg being g about 16k.
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I'm not highlighting the 16-month old place I had to set the cursor on my phone to avoid obscuring the recent data, I'm talking about the overall trend line.
 
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ButchPlz said:
I'm not highlighting the 16-month old place I had to set the cursor on my phone to avoid obscuring the recent data, I'm talking about the overall trend line.
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Of course. The said poster obviously isn't paying attention. Your cursor was set to March 2020, not 2021. If he'd noticed that he'd not have said "4 months".
 
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utvols83 said:
My small sample size showing that children are more susceptible to Delta than previous variants? Seems to match up with countless reports.

Delta variant poses more serious risk to unvaccinated people, including kids, doctors say
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No, your sample does not "show" anything, as it is a tiny number. Neither are there "countless reports" on the danger of the Delta variant in children. More kids testing positive with a newer strain is exactly what you would expect when one becomes more prevalent. You have to look at actual outcomes.

Interestingly, you linked an article from the very hospital where I trained, and I can confirm that there has not been any significant increase in Pediatric morbidity or mortality. We have also not seen any indication locally that children are at increased risk from this, or any, variant to date.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
No, your sample does not "show" anything, as it is a tiny number. Neither are there "countless reports" on the danger of the Delta variant in children. More kids testing positive with a newer strain is exactly what you would expect when one becomes more prevalent. You have to look at actual outcomes.

Interestingly, you linked an article from the very hospital where I trained, and I can confirm that there has not been any significant increase in Pediatric morbidity or mortality. We have also not seen any indication locally that children are at increased risk from this, or any, variant to date.
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Game set and match!

Hopefully this Delta ruse is the final straw for these covid nazis.

I've kept up with the data the whole time and yes we are seeing an increase over the last couple days, but it sure did take a while for this "highly contagious" variant to get the numbers to go up. We have known about the Delta variant for months now and we've been almost entirely open everywhere in the country for a couple months now. Nothing is actually happening.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
No, your sample does not "show" anything, as it is a tiny number. Neither are there "countless reports" on the danger of the Delta variant in children. More kids testing positive with a newer strain is exactly what you would expect when one becomes more prevalent. You have to look at actual outcomes.

Interestingly, you linked an article from the very hospital where I trained, and I can confirm that there has not been any significant increase in Pediatric morbidity or mortality. We have also not seen any indication locally that children are at increased risk from this, or any, variant to date.
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I would be glad to revisit this with you a month from now and see if your claim that children are not at an increased risk actually holds up as Delta becomes more widespread. I would be more than happy to be wrong and glad to eat my words. However, having seen many reports on the affects and ease of spread of the Delta variant (in India, the UK, and early reports in the US), and knowing that a large healthcare system in my area is really concerned about it (internal communications, including talk of more widespread illness in younger groups)...I have good reason to be concerned. And yes, that small sample size in my family is concerning to me since they've already faced similar circumstances with a previous variant and only one child got slightly sick and three adults had what would equate to a mild flu.

I never said Delta was catastrophic...just simply pointing out that it's hitting all age groups harder than previous variants. Just to be clear, by hitting I mean affecting unvaccinated members of those age groups with more severe illness and increased ability to spread. Again, another month of data on Delta in the US should make things clear.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
No, your sample does not "show" anything, as it is a tiny number. Neither are there "countless reports" on the danger of the Delta variant in children. More kids testing positive with a newer strain is exactly what you would expect when one becomes more prevalent. You have to look at actual outcomes.

Interestingly, you linked an article from the very hospital where I trained, and I can confirm that there has not been any significant increase in Pediatric morbidity or mortality. We have also not seen any indication locally that children are at increased risk from this, or any, variant to date.
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You're wasting your time...he is a fear addict, nothing will convince him to let this go. Ten years from now the idiot will still be counting cases and reading/watching fear porn to feed his addiction.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
You're wasting your time...he is a fear addict, nothing will convince him to let this go. Ten years from now the idiot will still be counting cases and reading/watching fear porn to feed his addiction.
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If I'm such an idiot, then you should probably just move right along and hit that ignore buddy. Won't bother me a bit. In the meantime, keep taking what I say and dialing it up to the extreme just because it isn't a take that you like or agree with. I'll sleep just fine tonight knowing that some random dude on the internet thinks I'm an idiot.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Here we go again!

I know you probably don't venture into the politics forum, but if I had a dollar for every time I heard that phrase in the past 18 months...
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I rarely venture over to that cesspool. A month of additional data is fair considering the Delta variant is still somewhat new in the US. I know you probably understand that hindsight might not reflect well on your outlook, so I understand the response. Having a VERY close family member on the executive team (title starts with a C and ends with an O) that covers four large hospitals, I'm fairly confident that what I've been told has some merit. As I said before, I certainly hope the concern turns out to be unwarranted. I don't want anyone getting sick. Hopefully the US is much better prepared than other countries...we know that the healthcare system is much better than India's...so we'll see.

I still find it funny that a few of you seem to be getting bent out of shape with what I'm posting. I don't think I'm being overly alarmist or saying we all should shelter in place. All I've said is that the Delta variant is definitely more transmissible and causes more severe illness and is affecting kids more than previous variants. That shouldn't be something any of you haven't already heard...whether you agree with it or not.
 
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KnoxLandcruiser said:
Is that really what you took away from that chart? Or are you being intentionally obtuse?
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That's what caught my eye. Yes, I missed "2020", assuming it was 2021. But the recent upturn in new cases did not show up very well on the chart. Hopefully that trend will reverse. Deaths are very low. None of us knows what's in the future. It's all a guess.
 
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walkenvol said:
Arkansas and Missouri have surpassed the 15 cases per day per 100,000 residents prompting Chicago to issue a travel advisory warning. Only 35% of folks in Arkansas are vaccinated. Take the shot dumbasses!
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It’s about to hit Alabama hard only 1.5 million out the 6.5 million that live in Alabama have been vaccinated making it dead last in the country for vaccinations not surprising though Alabama is just about dead last in everything.
 
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BigOrangeAl 1979 said:
It’s about to hit Alabama hard only 1.5 million out the 6.5 million that live in Alabama have been vaccinated making it dead last in the country for vaccinations not surprising though Alabama is just about dead last in everything.
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‘Cept football
 
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BigOrangeAl 1979 said:
It’s about to hit Alabama hard only 1.5 million out the 6.5 million that live in Alabama have been vaccinated making it dead last in the country for vaccinations not surprising though Alabama is just about dead last in everything.
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Glass houses! TN isn't far behind.
 
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BigOrangeAl 1979 said:
It’s about to hit Alabama hard only 1.5 million out the 6.5 million that live in Alabama have been vaccinated making it dead last in the country for vaccinations not surprising though Alabama is just about dead last in everything.
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Most of my extended family that is dealing with the delta variant right now are in east Alabama. Only one if them has had the first vaccine shot and she's not sick at all. It has hit just about everyone else. A one year old spent a few days at Children's Healthcare of Atlanta but it doing well now. My cousin's husband is just getting out of the hospital today after being admitted several days ago with pneumonia in both lungs and was given plasma and oxygen. I think he's only about 30 years old. The worst case is with another cousin's mother-in-law who just got rushed from the local ICU to Emory after being put on a ventilator and having a collapsed lung. She's been put on an ECMO machine and the only good news is that they've been able to take the vent down from 100% to 40%. She's only 49 and was in great health but is now fighting for her life. They all go to the same church and they had to go back to online services because other members are sick with a few in the hospital.

I get some of the concerns over the vaccine, but the odds of having serious side effects are likely much lower than the odds of getting the delta variant and those side effects are much easier to treat. These severe illnesses and deaths are mostly preventable now.
 
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