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Weezer said:
The same could easily be said of your post, my friend. You DO NOT have to accept it as "normal", but you DO have to accept they have the right to do it, and the right to live their lives, and the right NOT to be discriminated against. Is the fact you're not supposed to discriminate what you call "accepting it as normal"? That's just a basic human right. You can still disagree with it yet not discriminate.
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Your wrong and the bolded part is what the majority of the conversation has been about.
 
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Weezer said:
He also told us not to judge others. He is the judge.
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By that he did not mean that we cannot acknowledge sinfulness or else preaching would not exist. How else could anyone, including Jesus preach, “Repent!” Matthew 4:12. He also said “judge with righteous judgment” John 7:24. Please do not twist scripture. Thank you
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
By that he did not mean that we cannot acknowledge sinfulness or else preaching would not exist. How else could anyone, including Jesus preach, “Repent!” Matthew 4:12. He also said “judge with righteous judgment” John 7:24. Please do not twist scripture. Thank you
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But we should still love the sinner, correct?
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
By that he did not mean that we cannot acknowledge sinfulness or else preaching would not exist. How else could anyone, including Jesus preach, “Repent!” Matthew 4:12. He also said “judge with righteous judgment” John 7:24. Please do not twist scripture. Thank you
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And don't accuse someone of "twisting scripture" simply because they see things differently than you. Many people pick and choose what they want from the Bible while ignoring other passages. You do not know God's intentions anymore than I do and to pretend you do is arrogance.
 
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Weezer said:
I don't think it's for us to condone or condemn, just accept. As far as affirming, I see nothing wrong with calling them by whatever pronoun they prefer. Where is the harm in showing them that respect?

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I do not accept it even if that is what they want, feel, believe. I am not stopping them. But I do not want to be forced to accept, affirm or condone. For instance the way teachers are being forced at the moment to do so or be fired.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Of course, by telling them the truth, that they are a sinner and that they must repent and receive the forgiveness of sins. Just as we ALL must. We do not love them by telling them everything is fine and living by lies
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Kind of hard to go back on a sex change operation after it's happened, don't you think?
 
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Weezer said:
lmao I don't think I'm wrong, but it's okay if you disagree.
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Of course you don’t and I don’t think I’m wrong either. Doesn’t make either of us right, but it’s a right. Everyone has a choice in what they believe on any subject, but to say you have to accept it as a belief when you don’t, is completely wrong.
 
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Orangeredblooded said:
Of course you don’t and I don’t think I’m wrong either. Doesn’t make either of us right, but it’s a right. Everyone has a choice in what they believe on any subject, but to say you have to accept it as a belief when you don’t, is completely wrong.
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You have to accept that they have the right to do it.
 
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Weezer said:
And don't accuse someone of "twisting scripture" simply because they see things differently than you. Many people pick and choose what they want from the Bible while ignoring other passages. You do not know God's intentions anymore than I do and to pretend you do is arrogance.
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I know what Matthew 7 means because I can do simple hermeneutics. If Jesus were saying that we could not acknowledge sin, the whole Bible is destroyed. How did Peter preach “repent” in Acts 2, Steven the same in Acts 7, Paul in Acts 17? How does Church discipline happen in Matthew 18? How does Paul command the Corinthian church remove the man from the congregation because he is in adultery in 1st Corinthians 6? How could Paul say that those who practice certain sins will not inherit the kingdom in 1st Cor. 6:9-11? The answer is that Jesus does not mean in Matthew 7 that we are not to acknowledge sin in others.
 
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Weezer said:
Kind of hard to go back on a sex change operation after it's happened, don't you think?
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Sadly, that’s probably true. Thankfully, repentance takes place in the heart first, and then the person lives their life in obedience. If there’s no reversal, that doesn’t mean they continue a lifestyle that God forbids. That would be a very difficult situation but truly a divine miracle to witness God save from such a place.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
I know what Matthew 7 means because I can do simple hermeneutics. If Jesus were saying that we could not acknowledge sin, the whole Bible is destroyed. How did Peter preach “repent” in Acts 2, Steven the same in Acts 7, Paul in Acts 17? How does Church discipline happen in Matthew 18? How does Paul command the Corinthian church remove the man in their church from the congregation because he is in adultery in 1st Corinthians 6? How could Paul say that those who practice certain sins will not inherit the kingdom in 1st Cor. 6:9-11? The answer is that Jesus does not mean in Matthew 7 that we are not to acknowledge sin in others.
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Fundamentally the type of judgment prohibited by Jesus in Matthew 7 is hypocritical judgment where we don't remove our planks but notice other people's specks. You've argued solid, biblical logic in the posts I've seen you make.
 
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SweetasSoda said:
We're not to judge others for what we are doing. We are definitely to judge what behavior is sin. Everyone is FREE to sin. They are not free to change what the Bible calls sin.
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There are at least two different arguments to face here. One, from the standpoint of Christianity, you're assuming they are also Christian, which we do not know. Two, from the standpoint of being an American, Christianity does not make the law. We live in a country where freedom of religion is a right. But none of us have the right to project our religion upon others.

Everyone will have an opinion, and that's fine, but understand the law is not formed around your opinion, or what the Bible says. Individuals have rights, and it is not for any of us to infringe on the rights of others.

And with that, I'm done. I've clearly expressed my views on a topic that has no place in this forum to begin with.
 
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