Recruiting forum off topic thread (no politics, covid, or hot button issues)

[Weezer]

You’re not getting it. I don’t care what people do. They are free to do whatever they want. They are not free to force me to accept it or pretend that it is normal and right. They don’t have a right to play women’s sports, fight women, or mutilate children. If they want to pretend they’re a woman or a man, that’s their business. It’s wrong and is a mental illness, but they are free to do what they want. But they are the one infringing on the rest of us.

Is being respectful to someone who has transitioned being "forced to accept it"? I guess that's where my disconnect is. I agree with the sports part, agree that children should not be subjected to gender reassignment, but I don't understand the total hatred you seem to convey.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Is being respectful to someone who has transitioned being "forced to accept it"? I guess that's where my disconnect is. I agree with the sports part, agree that children should not be subjected to gender reassignment, but I don't understand the total hatred you seem to convey.

What are you talking about? I’ll be respectful to anyone I talk to. But if you mean I have to refer to a him as a her, I won’t do it, no. That isn’t respectful, that’s a lie. I also won’t pretend it is normal. I don’t hate them, quite the opposite. Pretending that they are fine and everything is normal is hatred. No different than pretending that a person mutilating himself is totally fine and normal.

People think that love is just pretending that everything is okay. It’s not. Love is truth not lies.

 

[Leeleesteeth]

Tough conversation going on here. Well meaning people with differing views. All I know is God is in control. We are called to love our fellow man, but we are NOT called to celebrate lifestyles and behaviors that run contrary to His word. As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. Go Vols!!

 

[InVOLuntary]

The same could easily be said of your post, my friend. You DO NOT have to accept it as "normal", but you DO have to accept they have the right to do it, and the right to live their lives, and the right NOT to be discriminated against. Is the fact you're not supposed to discriminate what you call "accepting it as normal"? That's just a basic human right. You can still disagree with it yet not discriminate.

I've repeatedly said that I think someone has the right to do whatever they want with their bodies. The pushback is from the other side. Accept us as normal. Let us men use the women's bathroom. Let us men compete with the women. They are forcing what they believe is normal and you're somehow a bad person for not accepting it.

 

[Weezer]

I've repeatedly said that I think someone has the right to do whatever they want with their bodies. The pushback is from the other side. Accept us as normal. Let us men use the women's bathroom. Let us men compete with the women. They are forcing what they believe is normal and you're somehow a bad person for not accepting it.

I think it's a complicated issue that will never be solved on a message board.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I think it's a complicated issue that will never be solved on a message board.

I think I'm perfectly able to solve it.

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

Still have no idea what you mean by mutilating children.

Has a trans person personally done harm to you or your family?

Trans = mental illness. Backed by every stat.

 

[SweetasSoda]

This is why the Tennessee Football recruiting forum is maybe not the best place for this discussion.

I too believe that there is a God who created everything from the widest expanses of the universe and down to the smallest particle of matter.

That being said, I have to disagree that it is “obvious” that we are living in the end times.

Frankly, I’ve just scrolled through 3 or 4 pages of people spouting off that there view is right and everyone else is wrong.

The infinite God I believe in laughs at your collective insistence about any particular small, finite, worldly set of rules you are upholding as something that should be adhered to and every nonadherent is doomed.

You all are really limiting a limitless God when you set out to say “do it this way or you’re wrong.”

Unless the limitless God was caring enough to give us limits for our own good and wise enough to reveal them to us in a book and big enough to be able to preserve it. I'm not going to limit God and say He cannot do that.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Unless the limitless God was caring enough to give us limits for our own good and wise enough to reveal them to us in a book and big enough to be able to preserve it. I'm not going to limit God and say He cannot do that.

 

[bluegrasser]

Unless the limitless God was caring enough to give us limits for our own good and wise enough to reveal them to us in a book and big enough to be able to preserve it. I'm not going to limit God and say He cannot do that.

What if God is a Trans person?

2000 years ago God came down to earth in the form of a lowly child from an unwed couple from a backwater town and walked around for 33 years experiencing all the joys and sorrows of this earthly existence (and befriending all manner of people who most of society looked down on and cast aside).

What if the Holiest of Holies is on this earth right now, experiencing the angst of a troubled person considering their own gender?

The God I believe in could certainly do that - and might do it, just to see what that experience is like and how he or she is treated by all the good religious folks who claim to know what the Almighty stands for on any given day.

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

What if God is a Trans person?

2000 years ago God came down to earth in the form of a lowly child from an unwed couple from a backwater town and walked around for 33 years experiencing all the joys and sorrows of this earthly existence (and befriending all manner of people who most of society looked down on and cast aside).

What if the Holiest of Holies is on this earth right now, experiencing the angst of a troubled person considering their own gender?

The God I believe in could certainly do that - and might do it, just to see what that experience is like and how he or she is treated by all the good religious folks who claim to know what the Almighty stands for on any given day.

Why would he need to experience it if he knows all and the future as well? Derp

 

[SweetasSoda]

It’s funny that you think this hurts me. I know how you feel. You’re just confirming Romans 1:18ff. But you’re denying basic biology of male and female and you continue to tell me that what I believe is untrue. “Professing to be wise they became fools”

***A brief Bible discussion. Just skip like I skip the boobs if you don't want to read it.

I seriously have been in Romans 1 for over a month. Just amazed at how it outlines human history, rise and fall of societies, and a person's life from innocence to reprobate mind.

 

[bluegrasser]

Why would he need to experience it if he knows all and the future as well? Derp

So, you feel pretty confident you know what God would or would not be interested in doing?

Cool.

I will start paying a LOT more attention to your recruiting predictions from now on

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

***A brief Bible discussion. Just skip like I skip the boobs if you don't want to read it.

I seriously have been in Romans 1 for over a month. Just amazed at how it outlines human history, rise and fall of societies, and a person's life from innocence to reprobate mind.

Yeah it’s really the greatest letter in the greatest book ever written. What is remarkable is people try and say that God doesn’t really care about sin and that we should be more loving by ignoring sin etc.

But the first 2 1/2 chapters of Romans tell us how we are all sinful. The next 2 1/2 tell us how God has dealt with sin to forgive us and remove it from all who are in Christ by offering Him up as a propitiation so that we might be justified in Him. Then the next 3 tell us that, for those of us who are now in Christ, it is our responsibility to rid ourselves of sin through the power of the Holy Spirit as God conforms us more into the image of Christ. God cares a great deal about sin and demands that we repent of it. He cares about sin so much that He sent His Son to die to pay for it.

Romans tells us all about that. God as the judge of all the earth could not ignore sin, so He did not spare His own Son, but gave Him up for us all. Beauty of all beauties!

Edit: I missed that you just said Romans 1. Yes, Romans 1 is very powerful and really reveals what’s in the heart of man who, “though they know God, they did not honor God but suppressed the truth in unrighteousness.” That is exactly what we see happening every day

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

So, you feel pretty confident you know what God would or would not be interested in doing?

Cool.

I will start paying a LOT more attention to your recruiting predictions from now on

God isn’t real.

 

[Weezer]

Trans = mental illness. Backed by every stat.

Homosexuality used to be classified as a mental illness, but not anymore.

 

[bluegrasser]

God isn’t real.

So…
He Gone?

Classic BGS

Hopefully we can get back to the football stuff now

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

So…
He Gone?

Classic BGS

Hopefully we can get back to the football stuff now

Not gone. Never was here.

 

[SweetasSoda]

Is being respectful to someone who has transitioned being "forced to accept it"? I guess that's where my disconnect is. I agree with the sports part, agree that children should not be subjected to gender reassignment, but I don't understand the total hatred you seem to convey.

When you say being respectful are you meaning condoning and affirming? I will not do that. Are you saying be polite and nice? I do that to any person.

 

[SweetasSoda]

Tough conversation going on here. Well meaning people with differing views. All I know is God is in control. We are called to love our fellow man, but we are NOT called to celebrate lifestyles and behaviors that run contrary to His word. As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. Go Vols!!

Go Vols!

 

[Jackcrevol]

Cant believe I have to say this. While I 110% do NOT agree with any parent who intentionally would have part in altering a childs affiliation. That is abuse of power, and, horrible parenting. Understanding each situation is unique, im saying for their own end.

With that said to one another...Love is patient, Love is kind, it is not angry proud or rude....

 

[Weezer]

When you say being respectful are you meaning condoning and affirming? I will not do that. Are you saying be polite and nice? I do that to any person.

I don't think it's for us to condone or condemn, just accept. As far as affirming, I see nothing wrong with calling them by whatever pronoun they prefer. Where is the harm in showing them that respect?

 

[SweetasSoda]

What if God is a Trans person?

2000 years ago God came down to earth in the form of a lowly child from an unwed couple from a backwater town and walked around for 33 years experiencing all the joys and sorrows of this earthly existence (and befriending all manner of people who most of society looked down on and cast aside).

What if the Holiest of Holies is on this earth right now, experiencing the angst of a troubled person considering their own gender?

The God I believe in could certainly do that - and might do it, just to see what that experience is like and how he or she is treated by all the good religious folks who claim to know what the Almighty stands for on any given day.

Sounds like that "vain in their imaginations" from Roman's 1. There's lots of things I imagine I wish were true. It all comes down to do we believe what the Bible says or do we believe whatever we want to believe. I do realize most people do not.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

I don't think it's for us to condone or condemn, just accept. As far as affirming, I see nothing wrong with calling them by whatever pronoun they prefer. Where is the harm in showing them that respect?

Because the same One who said that said “In the beginning He made them MALE and FEMALE.” Matthew 19:4

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Cant believe I have to say this. While I 110% do NOT agree with any parent who intentionally would have part in altering a childs affiliation. That is abuse of power, and, horrible parenting. Understanding each situation is unique, im saying for their own end.

With that said to one another...Love is patient, Love is kind, it is not angry proud or rude....

“Love does not rejoice in wrongdoing but rejoices in the truth” 1 Corinthians 13:6