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Per FactCheck.org :

False Claim Ukraine Got Aid 'Before Schedule'

By D'Angelo Gore

Posted on January 24, 2020

President Donald Trump, who last year froze hundreds of millions of dollars in security aid for Ukraine, claimed "they got all of it long before schedule." That's false.

For fiscal year 2019, Congress authorized $391 million in security assistance, including training, equipment, and other support, for Ukraine. Of that amount, $250 million was appropriated to the Defense Department for the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative, and $141.5 million was allocated to the State Department for the Foreign Military Financing program. The funds were meant to be spent by those departments by September 30, 2019.

In June, the Defense Department announced its plan to provide the $250 million in security assistance to the Ukraine. However, in July, Trump directed the White House Office of Management to put the aid on hold. He also had OMB block the assistance from the State Department.

It wasn't until about two months later, on Sept. 11, when the White House - under pressure from members of Congress and administration officials - released the money.

But because the Defense Department was required to wait another 15 days before it could begin obligating the funds, it wasn't able to spend all of the money before the end of September, when the fiscal year ends.

Congress had to add a provision to a continuing appropriations bill - which Trump signed into law on September 27 - allowing the unspent funds to be used in fiscal year 2020.

Mark Sandy, the deputy associate director for national security at OMB, testified at his November 16 deposition that approximately $35 million had been left unobligated by the Defense Department. Those funds, he said, "would have expired" if not for Congress stepping in.

Then, three days later, the Los Angeles Times reported that those funds still had not been spent, according to Pentagon documents the newspaper reviewed. And the following month, on December 12, the Times reported that about $20 million in aid "still hasn't reached Ukraine."

That demonstrates all funds did not go out on schedule, as the president said.

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@NorthDallas40,

Do you understand that a new provision had to be added to the appropriations bill because of Trump's hold? Do you also understand that as of December 12, 2019, the Ukraine STILL had not received all of those funds? That probably is beyond your capacity for comprehension, isn't it?
Your great aha is 20 of 391 million? Less than 5%? And sounds like with the dates you posted is a process of a couple million every couple days.

Trump was impeached over 20 million? He spent more on a golf outings. The congressional sexual assault slush fund was larger than 20 million.

JFC where does all this fiscal responsibility go?
 
Your great aha is 20 of 391 million? Less than 5%? And sounds like with the dates you posted is a process of a couple million every couple days.

Trump was impeached over 20 million? He spent more on a golf outings. The congressional sexual assault slush fund was larger than 20 million.

JFC where does all this fiscal responsibility go?
No. Trump was impeached because he withheld the aid and made it conditional upon President Zelensky performing a campaign favor for him.
 
You are still drinking the party's spiked kool-aid.
I find it ironic for a Trump supporter to be making a Jonestown analogy. Republicans are moving increasingly closer to being a cult of personality, with the unconditional support and defense of Donald Trump being the only prerequisite for inclusion, and criticism in any form of Trump being just cause for expulsion.

It really would take the perspective of a true believing, cult enthusiast, not to see the purpose behind the freeze, in conjunction with Trump's July 25th conversation with President Zelensky... but since you probably also think the 2020 Presidential election was stolen from Trump? It's a waste of time arguing the matter.
 
I find it ironic for a Trump supporter to be making a Jonestown analogy. Republicans are moving increasingly closer to being a cult of personality, with the unconditional support and defense of Donald Trump being the only prerequisite for inclusion, and criticism in any form of Trump being just cause for expulsion.

It really would take the perspective of a true believing, cult enthusiast, not to see the purpose behind the freeze, in conjunction with Trump's July 25th conversation with President Zelensky... but since you probably also think the 2020 Presidential election was stolen from Trump? It's a waste of time arguing the matter.

Do you know anything about Jim Jones? If you did then you wouldn't make this comparison to the Republican Party or conservatives.
 
Do you know anything about Jim Jones? If you did then you wouldn't make this comparison to the Republican Party or conservatives.
Yes, I do. The People's Temple was a sect from The Church of Christ, which espouses a very literal interpretation of the Bible. However, the only parallel which I was drawing was that The People's Temple was a cult... and the Republican Party is becoming one. No direct comparisons were made.
 
Yes, I do. The People's Temple was a sect from The Church of Christ, which espouses a very literal interpretation of the Bible. However, the only parallel which I was drawing was that The People's Temple was a cult... and the Republican Party is becoming one. No direct comparisons were made.
So you draw a direct comparison to the People’s Temple cult of personality (that’s what it was it revolved completely around a charismatic leader) from a kool-aid reference and the GOP being a cult of personality around Donald Trump (you directly said that) and when called upon it you state no direct comparison was made.

So you are indeed ignorant. And you suck at basic comprehension 🤡
 
Yes, I do. The People's Temple was a sect from The Church of Christ, which espouses a very literal interpretation of the Bible. However, the only parallel which I was drawing was that The People's Temple was a cult... and the Republican Party is becoming one. No direct comparisons were made.

You are ignorant about Jim Jones but want to come off as educated. Jones aligns with the left on about any checkbox that's available.

I'm sure you are currently scanning the internet for any nugget that supports your position. I wait with bated breath.
 
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You are ignorant about Jim Jones but want to come off as educated. Jones aligns with the left on about any checkbox that's available.
I would bet that I know more about Jim Jones and The People's Temple than most. As I even just said, I wasn't drawing any direct comparisons, and made no reference at all to political ideology. I was only speaking of how the Republican Party is becoming a cult - just as The People's Temple was... but yes, I know of their connections to Harvey Milk, Mayor George Moscone and Willie Brown - and to a lesser extent, even Dianne Feinstein.

Rep. Leo Ryan and his top aid, current Rep. Jackie Speier, were also Democrats, by the way. I attended a seminar in Memphis in 2008, in which she described the events of November 18 - 19, 1978 in Guyana. Among many things, she discussed her testimony against the man who shot her, Larry Layton.

Fwiw, Milk and Moscone were assassinated just a week after the Jonestown suicides. Feinstein saw the whole thing from under her desk. That was a crazy week in San Fran.
 
I would bet that I know more about Jim Jones and The People's Temple than most. As I even just said, I wasn't drawing any direct comparisons, and made no reference at all to political ideology. I was only speaking of how the Republican Party is becoming a cult - just as The People's Temple was... but yes, I know of their connections to Harvey Milk, Mayor George Moscone and Willie Brown - and to a lesser extent, even Dianne Feinstein.

Rep. Leo Ryan and his top aid, current Rep. Jackie Speier, were also Democrats, by the way. I attended a seminar in Memphis in 2008, in which she described the events of November 18 - 19, 1978 in Guyana. Among many things, she discussed her testimony against the man who shot her, Larry Layton.

Wouldn't you say with all the riots in the streets drumming up 1960's style hate the democrat party is more of a cult?

As I told you before any comparison with Jones leads to the same ideas and twisted propaganda of the democrat party.
 
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He’s completely ignorant. The undisputed published date which the funds were released to DoD to begin procuring goods and services is Sept 11.

To wit the dumbass replies “but Ukraine didnt get the money by sept 30!” Ukraine was never going to directly get any money

To wit he then follows up with “but they didn’t have time to spend all of the money before sept 30!” which was never going to happen anyway they were spending the money well into calendar year 2020.

Absolutely clueless and a total shill 🤡
 
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Yes, I do. The People's Temple was a sect from The Church of Christ, which espouses a very literal interpretation of the Bible. However, the only parallel which I was drawing was that The People's Temple was a cult... and the Republican Party is becoming one. No direct comparisons were made.

Dude..you bow at the Temple of Government, the very definition of corruption and ineptitude, The ultimate cult.
 
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He’s completely ignorant. The undisputed published date which the funds were released to DoD to begin procuring goods and services is Sept 11.

To wit the dumbass replies “but Ukraine didnt get the money by sept 30!” Ukraine was never going to directly get any money

To wit he then follows up with “but they didn’t have time to spend all of the money before sept 30!” which was never going to happen anyway they were spending the money well into calendar year 2020.

Absolutely clueless and a total shill 🤡
That is an outright lie. A new provision had to be written into the continuing appropriations bill to account for a portion of this aid. Trump signed it into law on September 27th.
 
Wouldn't you say with all the riots in the streets drumming up 1960's style hate the democrat party is more of a cult?

As I told you before any comparison with Jones leads to the same ideas and twisted propaganda of the democrat party.
No, because the definition of a cult, is the misplaced devotion or excessive admiration of a group of people, directed towards one specific person or object. That fits the Republican Party in their current configuration. They are actually holding audits of an election held 7 months ago... which many Republicans seem to believe will lead to a "reinstatement" of Trump as President. That is some misplaced devotion, alright.
 
Here's What the Chinese Defector Has Reportedly Given Us About COVID...But Also on Joe and Hunter Biden by Matt Vespa (townhall.com)

Dangerous time we live in. This needs Congressional investigation.

"Chinese-language anti-communist media and Twitter are abuzz this week with rumors that a vice minister of State Security, Dong Jingwei (???) defected in mid-February, flying from Hong Kong to the United States with his daughter, Dong Yang."

"Dong also has provided DIA with copies of the contents of the hard drive on Hunter Biden's laptop, showing the information the Chinese government has about Hunter's pornography problem and about his (and Joe's) business dealings with Chinese entities."

The most telling part of the story is how we view China. To most of our country, China appears to be a friendly trading partner - not even one that doesn't play fair, and there's little regard to the fact that China is still basically a totalitarian Communist country that hides behind trade pretending to be a free economy. You don't have to defect from freedom, but much of this country will never grasp or even attempt to grasp that concept. China is in safe hands, though; Joe has too much to lose in this deal. Dong may find life as a defector so unrewarding that he resorts to Clintonicide.
 
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No, because the definition of a cult, is the misplaced devotion or excessive admiration of a group of people, directed towards one specific person or object. That fits the Republican Party in their current configuration. They are actually holding audits of an election held 7 months ago... which many Republicans seem to believe will lead to a "reinstatement" of Trump as President. That is some misplaced devotion, alright.

LOL ..... what a loony tune.
 
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The most telling part of the story is how we view China. To most of our country, China appears to be a friendly trading partner - not even one that doesn't play fair, and there's little regard to the fact that China is still basically a totalitarian Communist country that hides behind trade pretending to be a free economy. You don't have to defect from freedom, but much of this country will never grasp or even attempt to grasp that concept. China is in safe hands, though; Joe has too much to lose in this deal. Dong may find life as a defector so unrewarding that he resorts to Clintonicide.

Yep..gonna squeeze him like a lemon and discarded...
 
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No, because the definition of a cult, is the misplaced devotion or excessive admiration of a group of people, directed towards one specific person or object. That fits the Republican Party in their current configuration. They are actually holding audits of an election held 7 months ago... which many Republicans seem to believe will lead to a "reinstatement" of Trump as President. That is some misplaced devotion, alright.

I'm sure some fringe elements are holding out hope. So I will give you that.

Will you also admit there are some troubling signs in the democrat party?
 
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I'm sure some fringe elements are holding out hope. So I will give you that.

Will you also admit there are some troubling signs in the democrat party?

Some troubling signs? AOC & her girlfriends run the joint causing the country to hate & burn everyone not on their side. It's becoming a one party rule fast with no other opinions necessary.
 
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