5 UT Transfers are projected Starters

#52
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sjt18 said:
I don't think anyone has argued that the guys lost to OU weren't good players. Johnson too.

I love Chandler and appreciate what he did at UT. But he probably wouldn't be a top 2 back in UT's room now.

JG has always been a great practice player. Maybe it all clicks for him with a change of scenery. I kind of hoped he would have tried that a few years ago. But the smart money says he'll look great in practice then stink it up in games again.
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Oh people argued it. Otherwise I agree with your analysis.
 
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Not directed at any one poster but our fan base is all over the proverbial map. I think we (me included) try to force that square peg into the ever present round hole to explain our misfortunes in football. I think the fact is there’s many different issues that contributed to all this mess. But it’s fun to watch the verbal gymnastics of opinions we all go through to explain what can’t be explained without all the information. As far as transfers go....hopefully they’ll have great careers. It’s business - not personal! JMO
 
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sjt18 said:
I don't think they were poorly coached in terms of technique or drills. I think it all broke down on the style of play and Pruitt depressing the whole team.

You can almost see this new staff pumping confidence into these kids. Hopefully not confidence in things they cannot do... but rather the things they always could do but were convinced by negative coaching that they couldn't. Heupel seems to get the simple power of "believing" that you can do it.
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A bunch of guys on this roster were recruited by UF, Bama, UGA, LSU, Clemson, and so on. All the physical ability in the world for the most part. But when you have a guy that mentally is taking out his short comings on you as a player....it is easy to be mentally defeated before you step out on that grass. Heupel seems to get that mental side of the game. This is probably one reason why he is such a great QB mentor.
 
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butchna said:
The defense will be better schooled, less robotic and much more energetic imo. Might find out the present defense responds to that climate change imo.
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Yep
As long as the buy in, I believe the defense can be pretty good. My opinion, I’m hoping Whitehead okays a move to linebacker
 
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vettefool said:
That’s just wrong. Hope you are right and I am wrong . Let’s see what happens this season. Gosh I hope you are correct and that we have good coaches. I would bet against your statement.
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I don't know if Heupel and gang are the answer. I sure as hell know that Pruitt wasn't the answer....
 
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vettefool said:
Wow, we have some optimistic in this thread, hope there dreams aren’t crushed.
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Lol. I'm one of those that think coaching and schemes can offset talent some. So I'm not too worried. If CJH can win some games then recruiting will follow.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Are they on our schedule?
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That wasn't the question. The question was who else had more talent?

Honestly to me I think CJH can outscheme and outscore a good portion of our schedule. I think he can develop talent way better than Pruitt.

And if he can accommodate a respectable record then the recruiting will be fine.

But what do I know? I'm just guessing.
 
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sjt18 said:
I don't think they were poorly coached in terms of technique or drills. I think it all broke down on the style of play and Pruitt depressing the whole team.

You can almost see this new staff pumping confidence into these kids. Hopefully not confidence in things they cannot do... but rather the things they always could do but were convinced by negative coaching that they couldn't. Heupel seems to get the simple power of "believing" that you can do it.
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I've read some of the NFL scouting critiques of Trey Smith and the "coaching" he received. This is a guy who has likely lost 7 (possibly 8) figures from his first NFL contract due to the coaching he received. We've seen it with other players at that position (Mays, Wright, Morris). JGs fundamentals got worse each year. I've coached elementary school LBs who take better angles than our team did last year. You layer 3 to 4 assistants who were in over their head, plus a HC in over his head, and outdated offensive and defensive schemes and you get what we saw last year.

I'm not sure Heupel will be the answer but I know it's going to take a while to fix the fundamental and schematic mess he inherited. Thankfully for us, outside of the Big 3 games on our schedule, we should not be at a huge physical disadvantage in the 9 remaining games....
 
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LittleVol said:
Hated to lose Lawrence, but Slaughter had beat him out. He's still here. Slaughter is our NB now. Came in as a safety, then GAME 1 is told To guard Shi Smith, one of the faster slots in the SEC. And he got beat like a drum.
1) WTH Ansley??? You put a true freshman safety on Shi Smith??

2) As the game went on, Slaughter showed he could run with him. Still, had way too much man coverage with no pass rush.

Had Key Lawrence stayed here, he's probably starting opposite of Taylor at CB. I think if Slaughter had transferred to OU he'd be starting at NB the same...
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I think there’s no doubt he would’ve been starting and had a huge impact. As much as Pruitt was/is regarded as a great defensive mind, I found that his use or lack of use of playing time based on practice performance to be a bigger detriment than a lot of things he did. And that is saying something . Basically, meaning I don’t trust many of Pruitt’s personnel decisions and would think Lawrence should’ve gotten a lot more clock than he did.
 
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LittleVol said:
5 guys off a 3-7 UT ball club are projected starters at OU, UNC, and Miami.

OU (Big 12 Champs 2020)
- Gray is already the 3rd down back and looks to be the outright favorite as RB 1
- Lawrence is the projected starter at NB. And already has rep for being one of the stronger guys pound for pound on the team.
- Morris is still recovering from an injury from his time here, but he is the projected starter at LT

UNC- ACC Coastal runner-up
Ty Chandler- projected starter at RB and KR

Miami- 8-4 in 2020
- D Johnson projected starter at EDGE. Battled through a Quaritine protocol to emerge as one starting option at DE.

Wazzu- yeah that guy is starting there now.

So, how is this possible, when we supposedly just weren't very talented???

My point of this thread is to spotlight how you cannot give one ounce of legitimacy towards the Pruitt era, and the record of 2020. He was by a large margin the worst coach in UT history.

Heupel has the following:
Hyatt **** 4.3 -40
Wideman ****
Calloway **** 4.4
Keyton ****
Merrill **** 4.4
Holliday- 4.3
Jones- 4.3 proven playmaker
Coby and Tillman have ability too.

RB
Better overall than last year believe it or not.

Look man, Mizzou, UK, USCE, Pitt, Tech,
S-Bama, Vandy, are not more talented than us.

Look at the beginning of this post to remind you how we really don't know what's on our roster.

We HAD 3 guys that just transferred to a Playoff team and are projected starterS
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Hell, there's a reason they commanded so much money out of HS. They aren't stiffs. Those kids can actually play. Too bad we won't reap the benefits of our investments.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
@LittleVol

It will likely take more than one offseason to reverse some of the "coaching" this team has received the past three years and to reverse the culture from the lying, cheating Gump that ran the program...

Talent wise, only Bama, UF, and UGA are more talented on our schedule.
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Those three guys only needed a spring to be uncoached enough to start for OU
 
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LittleVol said:
5 guys off a 3-7 UT ball club are projected starters at OU, UNC, and Miami.

OU (Big 12 Champs 2020)
- Gray is already the 3rd down back and looks to be the outright favorite as RB 1
- Lawrence is the projected starter at NB. And already has rep for being one of the stronger guys pound for pound on the team.
- Morris is still recovering from an injury from his time here, but he is the projected starter at LT

UNC- ACC Coastal runner-up
Ty Chandler- projected starter at RB and KR

Miami- 8-4 in 2020
- D Johnson projected starter at EDGE. Battled through a Quaritine protocol to emerge as one starting option at DE.

Wazzu- yeah that guy is starting there now.

So, how is this possible, when we supposedly just weren't very talented???

My point of this thread is to spotlight how you cannot give one ounce of legitimacy towards the Pruitt era, and the record of 2020. He was by a large margin the worst coach in UT history.

Heupel has the following:
Hyatt **** 4.3 -40
Wideman ****
Calloway **** 4.4
Keyton ****
Merrill **** 4.4
Holliday- 4.3
Jones- 4.3 proven playmaker
Coby and Tillman have ability too.

RB
Better overall than last year believe it or not.

Look man, Mizzou, UK, USCE, Pitt, Tech,
S-Bama, Vandy, are not more talented than us.

Look at the beginning of this post to remind you how we really don't know what's on our roster.

We HAD 3 guys that just transferred to a Playoff team and are projected starterS
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They may be starters and that is great but when you enter the portal, I am pretty sure you look for teams you can start for or weak at your position. The ones listed above when to schools that they lost key players at those positions and did not feel they filled it yet with recruits. Anyone could transfer to OU ansd start on that crappy defense and if he does not start that ought ti tell you something. I would not get to enamored with them starting just yet see where it goes.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
I don't know if Heupel and gang are the answer. I sure as hell know that Pruitt wasn't the answer....
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At this point it's the only correct answer. That will change as time and the season progresses. I suspect we'll know what we have with Heupel and staff at the end of 2021 season.
 
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butchna said:
The defense will be better schooled, less robotic and much more energetic imo. Might find out the present defense responds to that climate change imo.
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Yep...Pruitt scheme may know his stuff on D, but if guys can't move loose and aggressive, you get the results we got.
 
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PYSCHO said:
They may be starters and that is great but when you enter the portal, I am pretty sure you look for teams you can start for or weak at your position. The ones listed above when to schools that they lost key players at those positions and did not feel they filled it yet with recruits. Anyone could transfer to OU ansd start on that crappy defense and if he does not start that ought ti tell you something. I would not get to enamored with them starting just yet see where it goes.
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So anyone can just come in and play at Oklahoma or Clemson, Ohio State just because they are thin at the position?
 
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LittleVol said:
So anyone can just come in and play at Oklahoma or Clemson, Ohio State just because they are thin at the position?
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so you are saying that transfers to schools like that have sat the bench? 2nd team or 3rd team? Look at those teams player losses at those positions. Not going to argue with anyone but the only one that is a loss is Gray and if the juco guy is half as good as some say, may not miss him much. Hopefully our backs this year can block on pass plays cause gray could miss his shadow. Actually his blocking resembles Morris alot, alot of ole
 
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Here’s my prediction, this team wins and loses by offense alone. The defense will always be among the worst in the league. That‘s not the point, the essence is to out video game score folks, 35+, 40+, 50+ points, even better. This teams days of smash mouth tennessee tornado defense, probably not for a good long while, if ever. The teams we get that have a taste of that in a few years, maybe championship teams. But for now, let’s see how long it takes to get Heupel’s flying machine off the ground. If he gets it going by the second half of the season, we maybe up for some entertaining football down the road. As for defense, I gotta give it a pass this year, just too many missing wholes. The only teams we stop are those that stop themselves. But that’s all right, we just keep scoring... or at least that’s the plan. I’m not really going to judge this team by Florida, but by Kentucky, a team that can really stop themselves. Next year we’ll try out scoring Florida!

Will it result in SEC and National Championships, it‘s hard to imagine it; will it be better than the stink pile we’ve had for the last eternity, it has to be.
 
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