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rjd970 said:
I’m probably the only one, but these Tweets irritate the crap out of me. As a fan I am so over words and platitudes. It is past time to start showing it with results.

I’m a firm believer in keeping your head down and grinding to get better. Telling everyone how good you think you are is worthless.
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EATS is just a saying the staff uses with the team..... how is talking anything about how good he is.
 
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butchna said:
Not a fan of doghouses. Seems like an ego driven relic of the past.
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Sounds one sided. I'd want to know a lot more that Barnes isn't going to expand on such as effort, attitude, etc. That, to me, from a coaches perspective would be an issue.

Of all years, where you're struggling with no big men, why in the world would you slit your own throat.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
Except for the part where Barnes put this kid in his dog house and wouldn't play him. You're right.
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Alledgedly...

And, if so, why was he in the doghouse?

I just fired 2 people this week, but it was my fault they had sh!t work ethics and their team members hated working with these people.
 
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UTMVol76 said:
Alledgedly...

And, if so, why was he in the doghouse?

I just fired 2 people this week, but it was my fault they had sh!t work ethics and their team members hated working with these people.
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Or.... that's what RL who gets paid to cover Vol basketball has said all season. And TB who most may not like has been right a lot recently has said Barnes didn't even meet this kid before he got to campus and didn't like him when he got here.
 
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HankHill said:
Pruitt is the worst head coach we’ve had here and it’s not close. Dooley was better and butch was 10x better
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Dooley couldn’t muster a winning record here and Butch went 0-8 in the SEC in freaking Year 5, the worst season the Vols have ever had, but sure.

Y’all mofos got some selective memories.
 
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Ten_Titans said:
Lol, so you know it isn't where we will end up, but it is the current reality? What is the current reality, and why does it matter? Were the Wade twins going to commit and then be on the field for the O&W game?
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My OP was “We are bleeding in recruiting”

Is a simple statement that I don’t know how anyone can dispute. Where we end up is a false dichotomy I never addressed
 
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MarcoVol said:
Dooley couldn’t muster a winning record here and Butch went 0-8 in the SEC in freaking Year 5, the worst season the Vols have ever had, but sure.

Y’all mofos got some selective memories.
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Sort of like yours forgetting back to back 9-4 seasons with bowl wins right before the last bad season?
 
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HankHill said:
the more i talk to people the more i believe whole heartedly the staff became aware they were getting nailed by ncaa early on and just cashed it in.
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How many seasons have we heard this in recent years - either coaches or players or both mailing it in by the end of the year?

2011, 2012, 2017, 2020 come immediately to mind. Maybe last few games of 2018.

Miserable to sit through as a fan when you know your team isn't even trying...
 
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Vols4us said:
Sort of like yours forgetting back to back 9-4 seasons with bowl wins right before the last bad season?
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2015 was a good year.

2016 was a clinic in how to squander the best roster a program has had in a decade by beating the two teams you need to beat and then losing to a crap USCe team and VANDERBILT.

2017 was year 5. Not year 1 or 2. To go winless in the SEC, which the Vols have never done...ever...not never ever.... well that’s probably the worst coaching job of any football coach we’ve had. Ever.

Correction it appears we went 0-4 in conference in play in 1924.
 
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Revived2002 said:
How many seasons have we heard this in recent years - either coaches or players or both mailing it in by the end of the year?

2011, 2012, 2017, 2020 come immediately to mind. Maybe last few games of 2018.

Miserable to sit through as a fan when you know your team isn't even trying...
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It’s just excuses. That’s what losing teams and losing programs do - they make excuses for why they keep losing.
 
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MarcoVol said:
Dooley couldn’t muster a winning record here and Butch went 0-8 in the SEC in freaking Year 5, the worst season the Vols have ever had, but sure.

Y’all mofos got some selective memories.
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Butch crashed and burned, but in my lifetime, the only time we have been nationally relevant was under Butch. Without 2015 and 2016, current recruits would have never seen us be relevant. By all accounts, he wasn't fit for the job and he failed spectacularly at the end, but without 2015-2016, recruits nor myself would have never seen Tennessee win a nationally meaningful game. I dislike the guy, but he was much better than Dooley and Pruitt imo.
 
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VolByLaw said:
Butch crashed and burned, but in my lifetime, the only time we have been nationally relevant was under Butch. Without 2015 and 2016, current recruits would have never seen us be relevant. By all accounts, he wasn't fit for the job and he failed spectacularly at the end, but without 2015-2016, recruits nor myself would have never seen Tennessee win a nationally meaningful game. I dislike the guy, but he was much better than Dooley and Pruitt imo.
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Without Josh Dobbs... Wow where would we be
 
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MarcoVol said:
Dooley couldn’t muster a winning record here and Butch went 0-8 in the SEC in freaking Year 5, the worst season the Vols have ever had, but sure.

Y’all mofos got some selective memories.
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The thing that puts Dooley above Pruitt for me is the situation he left us in. Not only a really sh***y roster situation but also with NCAA sanctions. With Butch, the last season was obviously horrible but he also had better seasons than Pruitt was able to muster, found a QB (I get that he pretty much lucked into that one, but still better than what Pruitt found), and in that last season, 3 of his losses were really close (Florida HM, South Carolina inside the 10, Kentucky 3 yards or so away from a completed HM TD) and Pruitt’s losses were almost ALWAYS blowouts.
 
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rjd970 said:
I’m probably the only one, but these Tweets irritate the crap out of me. As a fan I am so over words and platitudes. It is past time to start showing it with results.

I’m a firm believer in keeping your head down and grinding to get better. Telling everyone how good you think you are is worthless.
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Just curious, how old are you?
 
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UTMVol76 said:
Alledgedly...

And, if so, why was he in the doghouse?

I just fired 2 people this week, but it was my fault they had sh!t work ethics and their team members hated working with these people.
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I fired a guy, he told me that I stabbed him in the back. I had repeatedly told him he needed to slow down and try to do the job properly. Nope, same easy work messed up again and again. Some people like collecting paychecks, not learning.
 
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