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pierce60 said:
Also, consider how many offers the previous staff already extended to highly ranked kids. Sorry if someone already said that...
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It's hard for this staff to know who all the previous staff was recruiting. Plowman fired the whole recruiting administrative staff with Pruitt, Shelton, and Neids. This staff has to literally start at ground zero.
 
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bigl3327 said:
It's hard for this staff to know who all the previous staff was recruiting. Plowman fired the whole recruiting administrative staff with Pruitt, Shelton, and Neids. This staff has to literally start at ground zero.
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For $9.99 per month they can get a site that tells them who the previous staff was recruiting. Why they were recruiting someone is another issue.
 
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rekinhavoc said:
Sloppy? All I can say is it showed on the field.

Having said that we have some horses let's see what a real head coach and coaching staff pulling in the same direction can do,
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agreed. I recall posting on here, in a way done with Pruitt in back of my mind. But somehow failing to concede he was not the answer. It was so clear, by time he was fired...esp after cheating bubbled up. It had to be done.
 
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rekinhavoc said:
Sloppy? All I can say is it showed on the field.

Having said that we have some horses let's see what a real head coach and coaching staff pulling in the same direction can do,
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I feel like we say the same thing every time. With Dooley, Butch, Pruitt, now JH. This is another experiment hope this one turns out better
 
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sjt18 said:
The recruiting sites are far from perfect. OL is probably the most difficult for them to rank. MOST really good OL's develop once they get to college. Few face the competition or receive the coaching to be really good in HS. Because OL's do not usually play in very advanced O's in HS, it is next to impossible for the recruiting sites to evaluate them mentally. The mental part is more important for an OL than any other position except QB.

In addition, the best OL recruiters are looking for specific "good bones" that they think they can develop.... or they're competing for the relative few that are almost sure bets.
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Also, I expect Rankings by the recruiting sites during the Covid era here to be more suspect than ever. We’ve put together a crack recruiting staff and a fairly solid coaching staff and I trust they are putting in a lot of extra evaluation time to counter not being able to see these kids in person in most cases.

Also, watching film from UCF, these guys has some real speed on the field. They know talent for their system I believe.
 
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Catbone said:
I feel like we say the same thing every time. With Dooley, Butch, Pruitt, now JH. This is another experiment hope this one turns out better
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I disagree, especially with Butch and Pruitt. In both of those cases I felt the cabinet was left very bare of talent. I do feel the CJH has much better talent left behind.
 
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Catbone said:
I feel like we say the same thing every time. With Dooley, Butch, Pruitt, now JH. This is another experiment hope this one turns out better
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Heupel is a winner period.


Josh Heupel - Wikipedia

Don't make me poop in your produce section. Get on board! Come on in for the big win!
We throw a monkey wrench in the BCS this season. We're beating somebody and dashing their hopes.
 
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rekinhavoc said:
Heupel is a winner period.


Josh Heupel - Wikipedia

Don't make me poop in your produce section. Get on board! Come on in for the big win!
We throw a monkey wrench in the BCS this season. We're beating somebody and dashing their hopes.
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While I agree with your assessment, I really hope we are more than a fly in the ointment (isn't that what they used to call it?).
 
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engineerVOL said:
I think it’s a sign you should buy it. Neighbor has a Polaris we all had to use him to get to the grocery store this week during the hard freeze and snow. Think of the community nam sayin’!
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Ha, btdt! I’ve sold the last two rzr’s I had. Now just have a can am commander for farm work.
 
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coskramer said:
When I retire I want to spend 1-2 months every winter in the mountains.
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I’ve been scouring Zillow and other sites for property out there (Utah and Montana) and I’m suffering some serious price shock!! Doesn’t seem to be anything with 25+ acres for much under 2m!
 
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rekinhavoc said:
Heupel is a winner period.


Josh Heupel - Wikipedia

Don't make me poop in your produce section. Get on board! Come on in for the big win!
We throw a monkey wrench in the BCS this season. We're beating somebody and dashing their hopes.
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Yep. Kind of tired of the, "Well, if one coach smells bad they all do" narrative.

Dools - panic hire. Totally unqualified. No debate about it. The only thing he had was a blue blood last name. Stayed one year too long.

Botch - panic hire. UT was turned down by many because of staying too long with Dools. Despite that, he had success due to great recruiting, until he didn't and tried to get out and go to UNC. HC and staff turnover and incompetency killed the goose when it ran out of golden eggs.

Cornbread - panic hire. They even had to fire the AD and bring in St. Phillip, who became an evil imposter. Panic hire of an inexperienced AD followed by panic hire of a reach as a HC. What could possibly go wrong? Everything. Continuing to use the previous guy's incompetent QB crashed what chances they had. Cornbread was then able to complete the crashing of the program on his own.

Coach Heupel - best available. New UT admin, new AD, new blood in the department, new approach. Canvassed who was available, picked the best available who happened to be in the new AD's pocket. But actively went after others who said no because Cornbread made too big of mess. Heup is a winner at every stop and as a NC winning player. Offensive genius. Brought his coaching strength with him and hired the best available for the other side of the ball, who are very experienced.

Common denominators for the past decade prior to Heup - panic hires, unproven past as HC, staff turnover, undisciplined play, micromanager at HC. Botch followed a successful Kelly - he never built a program. The micro managing point gets missed a lot. When a micromanager gets moved to a top org leadership position, their inherent tendencies take over and usually cause disasters due to stress and fear based decisioning. In football if the HC is not good at the big picture and letting his guys have fun and ball out - they lose. Just like we have since Kiffin - who overachieved with a crap roster. The assistant coaches are to be the micromanagers and develop the players into the system the HC provides. The HC is to oversee, not take over that responsibility from his staff. What did Cornbread do? Same with Botch and Dools. Berate the assistants and get mired in the position coaching.
 
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Z06VolinWV said:
I’ve been scouring Zillow and other sites for property out there (Utah and Montana) and I’m suffering some serious price shock!! Doesn’t seem to be anything with 25+ acres for much under 2m!
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not being flippant...have you visitied these places? MT is by far the most beautiful off all the Western States. Ted Turner, Bozeman.

Recall buying a RT ticket to fly into Jackson in early 2000's > $180.00.

My first time there. What occured was how expensive everything was. $1,000,000 for an acre in Wilson, not even on the Snake. I'm sure its much crazier now.

Wonder what homesteading laws are these days?

Separate thought, there are private companies that buy up conservation lands in order to preserve, or, sell to US Govt. Sometimes lands dont meet their criteria. What ive found is those parcels go for very fair market value.
 
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