Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[Ron Swanson]

Tennessee offered Franklin pretty big money. His current salary is $5.5 million per year, and it’s safe to say Tennessee’s discussions with him involved a salary at least in the $7 million to $8 million range. We’ve heard more about it possibly being $8 million a year, although I can’t say for certain that that’s accurate.

- Callahan

 

[volsnvikes]

I think the feet drag is intentional. Let fans and media frenzy froth over. Also makes it look like we exhausted things, then slip Mangino in whilst no one is looking.

It’s been a long time since Mangino “slipped” anywhere.

 

[quadlee21]

I see some are staring to get on the Cristobal train... welcome aboard!!!

Been riding with you since day 1. I would love to have him

 

[Kingston Vol]

Complete BS. NCAA sanctions, dysfunctional internal issues are our big deterrent. We’ve let money people call the shots and everyone has their hands in every hire. Stop with the fan bs.

No, he's right. Fanbase negativity is a huge issue for coaches. You don't want to step into a hornet's nest. I've heard this from coaches on multiple staffs.

Now, I'm not saying Tennessee fans don't have the right to be negative. I'm as negative as anyone. But coaches notice it and won't leave a good thing for a bad thing just because the money is better.

 

[Aesius]

I wonder if we would we keep Steele if we got Chadwell?

I'd let him bring his entire staff if he wants to. Cohesion and trust are super important IMO. Hell, Butch Jones had us on a strong upward trajectory on the field and in recruiting with his gang of MAC rejects.

 

[BleedorangeinGA]

You can say it all you want but it is true. We are being laughed at by P5 staffs

Wow Ace, you are truly misguided. You are correct, Tennessee is laughed at, but it's not the fans they're laughing at man. Take a lap( in my most respectful voice possible)

 

[Vols2DaWall]

Complete BS. NCAA sanctions, dysfunctional internal issues are our big deterrent. We’ve let money people call the shots and everyone has their hands in every hire. Stop with the fan bs.

Yeah seriously. The fanbase is what makes this job elite. We've supported this team despite the decade of incompetence. Literally multiple level 1 and 2 violations to get 3 wins.

 

[jpope9]

It could easily be the reason Franklin says/said no. he’s already making huge money and doesn’t want to deal with people trying to Schiano his hire

honestly if that is the reason a coach wouldnt come here, then he's probably not HC material, especially in the SEC. If you think we are bad, can you imagine the coach that follows Saban?

 

[Jackcrevol]

It’s been a long time since Mangino “slipped” anywhere.

yup

 

[jakez4ut]

Legitimate fear - I just believe in his ability to score points and recruit well.

I think it's like hiring Kiffin in 2009.

chadwell or elliot?

 

[LargePairOfVols]

If we are having trouble attracting quality coaches, it could be that they value their future employment more than an extra $2MM/year. This place is toxic and the odds of permanently damaging your cachet are high. May not be worth an extra $2MM.

 

[Jimmy Football]

The only thing worse than the media’s unwarranted hatred of this fanbase is our fans’ unwarranted hatred of this fanbase.

 

[jakez4ut]

Is Cristobal a legit option? I would take him in a heartbeat.

given what is known right now, everything is legit, til it's not.

 

[Kingston Vol]

chadwell or elliot?

Elliott in this example, but I believe the bolded part for both.

We hired Kiffin because he recruited well and scored a ton of points at USC - and he wasn't calling plays there. The Raiders stuff was seen as a negative against him.

You hire Elliott because he recruits well and puts up a ton of points at Clemson.

 

[VFL28]

given what is known right now, everything is legit, til it's not.

Gruden?

 

[ncVOL1988]

I wonder if we would we keep Steele if we got Chadwell?

Nothing against Steele, but I kinda like Chadwell's DC. His players seem to run through walls for him.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

You can say it all you want but it is true. We are being laughed at by P5 staffs

Please name them. Then I’ll name staffs that would die to come here. Fans are not the issue. And anyone who believes that is completely out of touch. This would be like a CEO/President making bad business decisions and then blaming the employees for it not working out and the business failing.

 

[VolsFan-TX]

You can say it all you want but it is true. We are being laughed at by P5 staffs

Staffs or P5 message boards?!?

 

[RDU VOL#14]

- Callahan

So to be clear, have we officially struck out with Franklin or is there some more negotiating going on that could change this?

 

[Smokeyshowl66]

Chadwell would win the press conference and any negativity would vanish for a solid 7.5 months. Then all he has to do is pull off one upset win in 2021 and he's a hero. 7-5 in year 2 and he's safe again. Expectations are actually fairly low right now.

I may be Exhibit A on this. But I think we just want to see improvement on the field. After Pruitt's first year, I had told a number of people I expected us to be more competitive the second year, but it might not show up in the record. In year 2, the record was better, but we actually didn't improve that much. That's the key for me. Improvement year to year. The record will take care of itself if we see continuous improvement. But if that's not there, you have to cut your losses and move on quickly.

 

[headhunter15]

- Callahan

So, he turned UT & that money down?

 

[VeeOhElEsYes]

The only thing worse than the media’s unwarranted hatred of this fanbase is our fans’ unwarranted hatred of this fanbase.

What about all the warranted hatred?

 

[Jack Burton]

Personally? I'm good. Hope you are too.
TN football? -They've finally broken me DV.

Welcome to the negaVol club! Your initiation pin is in the mail.

 

[Newman]

- Callahan

Did Franklin give a hard no?

 

[butchna]

So to be clear, have we officially struck out with Franklin or is there some more negotiating going on that could change this?

No one knows.