Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

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BucVol98 said:
Freeze is my #1, I don't feel like Kiffin would be worth buying him out of his current deal
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Kiffins offensive staff with a Steele led defensive staff including Rodney G would definitely be worth the buyout, and that would win a lot of ballgames and a lot of recruiting battles...

Look..I hate Lane Kiffin (the reason I have never spoke his name during all this mess until now) and even I can recognize that.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
I’m trying to work through the list of names that seem to be getting the most attention in this thread and I’m getting there.

Billy Napier – This search’s Scott Frost
Gus Malzahn – This search’s Les Miles
Hugh Freeze – This search’s Bobby Petrino
Kevin Steele – This search’s Jeremy Pruitt
Lane Kiffin – This year’s Lane Kiffin
Jamey Chadwell – This search’s runner up for Scott Frost

I don’t know much about Fisher and Marrone but at a glance I think I’d go with Fisher out of the two. I do think we need a CEO as a head football coach and someone specifically that can handle the pressure of the job at UT. I think to some degree all three of our most recent head coaches have come unraveled as their tenures here wound down.

I really think we should have hired Jon Gruden in 2012 and that would have been his window in my opinion. I’ve always thought we needed to do a splash hire to reinvigorate the program. We need instant credibility especially in recruiting. We recruit well enough to field a mid-tier SEC team but fans are never going to accept that as a goal. We have to figure out a way to compete with the best and I think it starts with consistently out-recruiting the best. Obviously that’s a tall order but I really think that’s what we’re up against.

I’ve seen some suggestions that the new coach wouldn’t be facing as much of a rebuild as some of our other recent coaches but I disagree. We’ve been is a rebuilding mode for considerably more than a decade and we can’t even sustain getting a foundation in place before the house caves in. We’re hiring production home builders to build a mega mansion with all the best of high end luxuries and that task is way out of their league. It’s seems our plan is and always has been to catch lightning in a bottle. It’s unlikely we’re going to find success – at least not on our own. If the rest of the big six in the conference would implode then maybe but we’re not going to catch them in their current stride unless we kick in some afterburners. jmo.

The cost for who we need is probably around $10 million per year and total CEO-like control. The cost for what we’ll probably get is likely $4 million and micromanagement from a bunch of losers behind the scenes. Same song fourth verse. jmo.

So here’s the challenge – they’re not coming here but who can you think of that might be worth paying $10 million a year to and working out an arrangement to where other than compliance everyone else at UT is hands off everything below the head coach. There’s not a lot of options and we’re not trying to be realistic here. Realistic won’t get us anywhere that we haven’t already been. If we can't get Lincoln Riley then I’m thinking maybe we should go the Barnes route, you know, get a guy that was fired by the other UT. It might not even cost that much. Just a thought.
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There are five coaches in that range who would be worth it. None of them are remotely realistic options:

1. Nick Saban
2. Urban Meyer
3. Dabo Swinney
4. Lincoln Riley
5. Bob Stoops
 
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Ten_Titans said:
I don't exactly know what everyone means by stable..

Pruitt could achieve stability at 8-4 if you give him enough time. There is zero doubt in my mind about that. He was one win away last season. Is that really what you guys want?
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I’ve seen enough to say the odds are good that 8-4 is his ceiling, not his average.
 
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jakez4ut said:
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I think Rodney G will be on our next staff and he'll be arguably one of the best DL coaches we've had in quite a long time too.

I'd rather it be with a new HC, but I still say if Pruitt is here Rodney is the leading candidate.
 
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m1al said:
I have no problem with Phil up to the point of being "to involved" in the football team. If rumors are true that he "meddles" and "micromanages", then that's NOT good.

Other than that, his smoozing and fundraising are definitely a positive for the program.

The question is, can he seperate the two and stay out of team function unless specifically asked for advice?
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Did they not Let him coach the OL some.
 
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I could get on board with a Marrone/Steele/Garner package, I guess.

It isn't a long-term solution though. I would view it is a stabilization move and my expectations would be low. I've resigned myself to the fact that we are going to be medicore for the next several years no matter what. It's going to be Bama and then everyone else and there is nothing anybody can do about it anyway. Maybe we can get to steady 8-10 win seasons and buy time until Saban retires and move to a big name bully to come in.

It's sad, but that is where things are.
 
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Ace said:
Lots of coaches do not want this job. We are in a bigger mess than the fan base really knows. This has been a gradual decline, but jobs like us, South Carolina and Auburn are not as attractive anymore. Almost everyone has nice facilities and pays well. One coach told me recently that Tennessee is not worth the headache of a dysfunctional administration and fan base with expectations of a return to the 90’s in three years.
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There's a rumor out there that some guy would crawl through broken glass if he was offered this job. Can't remember his name though. Anyone have any info on who this guy is?
 
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It seems we always like to make announcements during sporting events. I wonder if tonight could be it.....
 
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