Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[BleedorangeinGA]

HC - Marrone
DC - Steele
OC - an innovative mind
Position coaches - mix of recruiters and developers. Keep Tee and Jay if they want to stay.

That staff would raise the floor around here quite a bit. Need to move quick to catch the assistant coaches while the shuffling is still going on.

I suppose Chadwell as HC with Steele as his DC could work, but Chadwell would have a hard time feeling comfortable with that arrangement given Steele's relationship with Fulmer and what Steele did with Malzahn at Auburn.

I think Jay will stay but reading a lot that Tee won't be here next season.

 

[BucVol98]

So stupid that they will not call Freeze or Kiffin

Freeze is my #1, I don't feel like Kiffin would be worth buying him out of his current deal

 

[Ten_Titans]

What is there to defend? You said he’d have coaches forced on him. My argument was that he should get to pick his own staff. You continued to act like no matter what, he was getting someone forced on his staff. I disagreed. Then you got big mad as usual when I pushed back against your definitive assertion. Is what it is....

You are talking about definitive assertions like you aren't doing the same thing. Last I checked, you didn't have Fulmer's office bugged up.

The idea that Chadwell isn't going to be able to resort to his rolodex of coaches when he takes a big time job is an assertion, but it's simply common sense. Look at someone like Brian Harsin with a much better pedigree than Chadwell. How many coaches from BS is he bringing? Do you think he would like to bring more? Who's decision do you think that was? I'm sorry if it isn't so common for you.

 

[MrWiz]

Are you kidding me? The football program is better after Pruitt? I've heard of aliens, so you must be from another planet, cause you're sure as hell are no expert on the state of our program.

Since Butch’s last team went 0 for 8 in SEC, wouldn’t Pruitts 3 win squad at the present time TECHNICALLY be considered better?

 

[VolFreakJosh]

Fulmer wants Marrone. He'd bring Steele and Garner

After the Pruitt situation, I don’t think it would be wise to hire a coach that Fulmer wants.

 

[Kingston Vol]

Really? I'm amazed we're able to get quality players here at all, in any numbers. I'm not saying that sarcastically or facetiously.

The program does have things going for us - big stadium, nice facilities, but so do lots of other schools that have recent relevance. Tennessee last played in a game of national consequence when these recruits were 4 or 5 years old, and the last elite team we fielded was a few years before they were born.

We're going to need some kind of pure luck event to break the cycle. It's our only way out. A Dabo-esque hire.

I think recruiting, like any sales job, is more feeling than anything substantial.

Lane Kiffin had done nothing here and landed Bryce Brown among others. Kirby Smart won 6 games at Georgia his first year but landed the #1 class in the country off of it. It's all salesmanship.

 

[McGeesPub]

I thought we would recruit much, much better than we have.

I was expecting Kiffin and Smart classes and that we would have so much talent it would make up for a new head coach learning on the job.

The recruiting has been vastly disappointing.

 

[SLICKYINC]

You are talking about definitive assertions like you aren't doing the same thing. Last I checked, you didn't have Fulmer's office bugged up.

The idea that Chadwell isn't going to be able to resort to his rolodex of coaches when he takes a big time job is an assertion, but it's simply common sense. Look at someone like Brian Harsin with a much better pedigree than Chadwell. How many coaches from BS is he bringing? Do you think he would like to bring more? Who's decision do you think that was? I'm sorry if it isn't so common for you.

So you check Fulmers office now?

Look out, we gots us another insider over here!

 

[SSVol]

Y'all funny, litigating coaches like our opinion matters. Reminds me of a barber I used to see:

Me: I need it <insert detailed haircut description>.
Zeke: I reckon you'll get what I give you.
Me: Uh...indeed.

 

[BleedorangeinGA]

After the Pruitt situation, I don’t think it would be wise to hire a coach that Fulmer wants.

In fairness to Coach Fulmer, given the situation he dropped into it's not fair to judge him on the Pruitt hire JMO.

 

[Jack Burton]

Or AHC or DC or co-DC or analyst or consultant or floater. Options. Flexibility. Continuity.

If that’s the plan let’s get Freeze for OC. He can also be AHC. That was my plan 2 years ago but we hired Chaney instead. I guess Fulmer didn’t see my post.

 

[BucVol98]

After the Pruitt situation, I don’t think it would be wise to hire a coach that Fulmer wants.

Difference is this guy isn't a hot head DC, he's a former NFL head coach that has been to the AFC Championship with Blake Bortles as his QB lol

 

[Spring Hill Jay]

Marrone Monday. We riot if he’s hired.

 

[Chuckie]

Hiring Chadwell has the feel of hiring another Bitch Jones!! I don't like the idea of having the smaller lineman again to get pushed around by SEC defensive lineman!!

I have no problem with your Freudian slip, whether intentional or not...I just love to use this gif when I get the chance!

 

[RockyTop865]

I messed up and went to the FF and called someone a moran...geez that was a snowball...they are not worthy of that moniker...i like home in RF better, water is more my temperature

 

[ILVFL]

So if we end up with Marrone, Steele, and Garner, who do we look to have in the OC box calling plays

The fans of course! We take turns texting in plays as needed, since we are all so knowledgeable. You know there are posters on here that would love it and feel qualified.

 

[McGeesPub]

Marrone Monday. We riot if he’s hired.

Why? It’d be the best hire we’ve made since Fulmer.

 

[VolFreakJosh]

In fairness to Coach Fulmer, given the situation he dropped into it's not fair to judge him on the Pruitt hire JMO.

The extension was all Fulmer.

That’s fair criticism right there.

 

[VolInDayton]

Marrone Monday. We riot if he’s hired.

Ehhh. Ever since Schiano Sunday I have seen enough rioting to last my whole life.

 

[Cosmo Kramer]

Fulmer was in a terrible spot when he hired Pruitt. The problem is he gave an unnecessary extension and he wants to retain him.

 

[Rishvol]

I don’t really care who the next coach is. Chances are in year 3 we will be right back here.

Great we're a Disney/Netflix series

 

[jakez4ut]

It isn't program suicide. You need to calm down, McGill. I'm not wanting to hire Marrone, but the guy has experience. He isn't going to come here and be Pruitt. He knows how to coach. Again, he took Jax to the AFC title game. On top of that, it seems likely that Steel and Garner are on his staff. That's two SEC coaches with experience coaching and recruiting at a high level in this league. Marrone also coached under Payton, he knows what a good offense looks like. He probably brings in a top notch OC. Can he recruit? Not sure. We know Garner can. I think he's a safe hire. Does he win championships? Idk. Does he go 4-8? Not imo. I think he's a stabilizing hire that might bridge us to the next guy.

Again, I'm not sure I want him, but if our options are he and Chadwell, and that appears to be the case, he's the safer of the two. Might not have as high of a ceiling, but I guarantee you he has a higher floor. Chadwell might get up here and get eaten alive in this league. I'm not sure.

 

[Volbucky]

Someone photoshop Callie Brownson in orange. The next HC at Tennessee.
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Never heard of him

 

[Smokeytom]

I think recruiting, like any sales job, is more feeling than anything substantial.

Lane Kiffin had done nothing here and landed Bryce Brown among others. Kirby Smart won 6 games at Georgia his first year but landed the #1 class in the country off of it. It's all salesmanship.

That's why you always judge a recruiter by how hot their wife is

 

[tn88volfan]

Come on guys!!! Mehrrone would be a Steele......It's about all Fulmer and UTAD could Garner up.