Trump Supporters Gathering in D.C. - Mayor Readies for Those ‘Seeking Confrontation’

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tnmarktx said:
Are you kidding me? The guys got eyes, he was at close distance there were other cops right on the outside with MP5's and AR's that walked back down the stairs. It was clearly murder to state otherwise is ridiculous. The only way I can respect anyone's opinion after clearly being able to watch the video, is if you're ok with making murder legal.
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Ignore the circumstances if you wish. Context of the situation determines the outcome.
 
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utvolpj said:
No one said they are but their rules of engagement are different in a situation like this. She charged at police after breaking and entering. From your other video, she was warned multiple times to stop and get back but ignored them to instead charge the cop with a gun.
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Watch the video. The cops outside with rifles don't seem concerned. Don't be afraid to say you're ok with her death because you thought she was dumb and her feelings don't matter.
 
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tnmarktx said:

Watch the video. The cops outside with rifles don't seem concerned. Don't be afraid to say you're ok with her death because you thought she was dumb and her feelings don't matter.
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Oh I absolutely think she was a complete moron and that directly contributed to her death. Her feelings don't matter at all.

I've still never said she deserved to die no matter how many times you beg for it. You'll never get what you want since mine is not an emotional response like yours
 
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tnmarktx said:

Watch the video. The cops outside with rifles don't seem concerned. Don't be afraid to say you're ok with her death because you thought she was dumb and her feelings don't matter.
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She was white and a Trump supporter so he's good with her being murdered
 
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tnmarktx said:
So you're ok with making murder legal?
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It was not murder. You can keep screaming that until the cows come home, but that doesn't make it murder. There may be a lesser charge, yes, but not murder. Go stand in the mans shoes. Things seem a lot different in that situation than when someone is pounding on a keyboard.
 
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utvolpj said:
Oh I absolutely think she was a complete moron and that directly contributed to her death. Her feelings don't matter at all.

I've still never said she deserved to die no matter how many times you beg for it. You'll never get what you want since mine is not an emotional response like yours
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From your response is it safe to say that your ok with some protests as long as they follow your line of thinking.? Anything else is insurrection and should be crushed at all costs, even if it leads to everyone's death?
 
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utvolpj said:
No one said they are but their rules of engagement are different in a situation like this. She charged at police after breaking and entering. From your other video, she was warned multiple times to stop and get back but ignored them to instead charge the cop with a gun.
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No she didn't. In fact, he even stepped up to take the shot.

One of those rule things about a suspect charging you is you don't close the gap to them. If she was "charging" him, he never would have taken that step or two forward.

I'm really appalled at how some of you, @Orangeslice13 included, are all about allowing and even encouraging the state to perform summary executions because of the location. Furthermore, I'm really concerned how many are drinking the Kool-Ade in calling this an insurrection and domestic terrorism. It's anything but. As I keep saying, if this was an insurrection or terrorism, the Capitol would be a burned out hulk by now.

Of course, go ahead and continue repeating the narrative. It makes the brainwashing easier.

So, by all means. Encourage the state to murder people just because they went through a window. Allow the left to divide us further. Makes their job of consolidation of power far easier. Get us arguing with each other while they do any damn thing they want to since they now control the power in government. Keep shoving your head in the sand and saying "well, I'm not an extremist, can't happen to me."

There is going to be an all out assault on conservativism in this country very soon and the stage is being set right before our very eyes. You're a fool if you think it won't cast a wide net very soon.
 
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New Trump pledge today:

"My Proud Boys are going to smash the Capitol, and Mexico's going to pay for it!"
 
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lawgator1 said:
Cruz about face on this, despite having voted for the objections even after the riots, may set a record for its speed and depth. He and Graham are in a class by themselves on reversing course at the drop of a pin.
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They were following allowable actions within the constitution. Making the leap to the capitol episode it’s pure BS.
 
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Orange Maniac said:
It was not murder. You can keep screaming that until the cows come home, but that doesn't make it murder. There may be a lesser charge, yes, but not murder. Go stand in the mans shoes. Things seem a lot different in that situation than when someone is pounding on a keyboard.
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I have a carry permit. You are not allowed to use deadly force unless someone has access, intent, and ability. Even if they have a weapon, if they turn and retreat I cannot use deadly force. I ask you to watch the video and you didn't. If you had, you would've seen the police outside the door with her unconcerned and casually walking back down the stairs. It was clearly murder.
 
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tnmarktx said:
From your response is it safe to say that your ok with some protests as long as they follow your line of thinking.? Anything else is insurrection and should be crushed at all costs, even if it leads to everyone's death?
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No, that's absolutely ridiculous to say and I have hundreds of posts refuting that insane suggestion

I'm a fan of personal responsibility. When a cop with a gun pointed at me says don't go through that window I probably reexamine that life choice. She just happened to reach the opposite conclusion and felt it was worth it. That's her prerogative but don't cry when it works out badly. She was warned
 
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Grand Vol said:
No she didn't. In fact, he even stepped up to take the shot.

One of those rule things about a suspect charging you is you don't close the gap to them. If she was "charging" him, he never would have taken that step or two forward.

I'm really appalled at how some of you, @Orangeslice13 included, are all about allowing and even encouraging the state to perform summary executions because of the location. Furthermore, I'm really concerned how many are drinking the Kool-Ade in calling this an insurrection and domestic terrorism. It's anything but. As I keep saying, if this was an insurrection or terrorism, the Capitol would be a burned out hulk by now.

Of course, go ahead and continue repeating the narrative. It makes the brainwashing easier.

So, by all means. Encourage the state to murder people just because they went through a window. Allow the left to divide us further. Makes their job of consolidation of power far easier. Get us arguing with each other while they do any damn thing they want to since they now control the power in government. Keep shoving your head in the sand and saying "well, I'm not an extremist, can't happen to me."

There is going to be an all out assault on conservativism in this country very soon and the stage is being set right before our very eyes. You're a fool if you think it won't cast a wide net very soon.
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If it wasn’t an insurrection or terrorism what was it? Just some peaceful protestors? Who had pipe bombs and Molotov cocktails? If you illegally break into a building that has the majority of our chain of command in it, you will be put down. It’s really that simple. The police had to quickly decide who was a viable threat to our lawmakers.
 
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tnmarktx said:
I have a carry permit. You are not allowed to use deadly force unless someone has access, intent, and ability. Even if they have a weapon, if they turn and retreat I cannot use deadly force. I ask you to watch the video and you didn't. If you had, you would've seen the police outside the door with her unconcerned and casually walking back down the stairs. It was clearly murder.
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This isn't even close to the same. He's an officer defending the US Capitol and those working there from an unknown mob. He and others warned her yet she Leroy Jenkinsed through a busted window anyways.
 
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utvolpj said:
No, that's absolutely ridiculous to say and I have hundreds of posts refuting that insane suggestion

I'm a fan of personal responsibility. When a cop with a gun pointed at me says don't go through that window I probably reexamine that life choice. She just happened to reach the opposite conclusion and felt it was worth it. That's her prerogative but don't cry when it works out badly. She was warned
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If you'd watch the video, you would know how stupid that sounds. Why are the swat cops outside the door with her unconcerned about what is going on. If it was such a grave situation, why would they not detain or kill her. Does this being a murder, kill the narrative you have so it just can't be?
 
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tnmarktx said:
From your response is it safe to say that your ok with some protests as long as they follow your line of thinking.? Anything else is insurrection and should be crushed at all costs, even if it leads to everyone's death?
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Just my 2 cents, and fwiw I'm a conservative white guy, rushing the Capital like that is no different to me than rushing an embassy on foreign soil. This is essentially Benghazi and a mob over-running a US diplomatic building. Once the barriers are breached, I am all for lethal force being used on any perpetrator.

With all of the incidents over the summer with the defunding of police, the no-police zones in the north west, and now this.....we are getting to a point where the inmates are running the asylum so to speak. Furthermore, anybody that has some bad intentions just watched how easy it is to break into a building in our nation's capital with a whole lot of high profile individuals.
 
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tnmarktx said:
I have a carry permit. You are not allowed to use deadly force unless someone has access, intent, and ability. Even if they have a weapon, if they turn and retreat I cannot use deadly force. I ask you to watch the video and you didn't. If you had, you would've seen the police outside the door with her unconcerned and casually walking back down the stairs. It was clearly murder.
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I've seen all the videos. Carry permit doesn't mean much. A trained monkey could almost get one. I've said my peace and will await the outcome of the investigation.
 
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Grand Vol said:
No she didn't. In fact, he even stepped up to take the shot.

One of those rule things about a suspect charging you is you don't close the gap to them. If she was "charging" him, he never would have taken that step or two forward.

I'm really appalled at how some of you, @Orangeslice13 included, are all about allowing and even encouraging the state to perform summary executions because of the location. Furthermore, I'm really concerned how many are drinking the Kool-Ade in calling this an insurrection and domestic terrorism. It's anything but. As I keep saying, if this was an insurrection or terrorism, the Capitol would be a burned out hulk by now.

Of course, go ahead and continue repeating the narrative. It makes the brainwashing easier.

So, by all means. Encourage the state to murder people just because they went through a window. Allow the left to divide us further. Makes their job of consolidation of power far easier. Get us arguing with each other while they do any damn thing they want to since they now control the power in government. Keep shoving your head in the sand and saying "well, I'm not an extremist, can't happen to me."

There is going to be an all out assault on conservativism in this country very soon and the stage is being set right before our very eyes. You're a fool if you think it won't cast a wide net very soon.
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This all just the obvious and expected conclusion of Trumpism. GA is the perfect example. You guys brought it on yourselves. Some of you should be admitting it was all a colossal mistake soon.
 
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tnmarktx said:


If you'd watch the video, you would know how stupid that sounds. Why are the swat cops outside the door with her unconcerned about what is going on. If it was such a grave situation, why would they not detain or kill her. Does this being a murder, kill the narrative you have so it just can't be?
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I watched the video and the other you posted. First, it's unlikely the shooter can even see them. Second, those officers warned them not to go past that point (per your other video). At that point she had done nothing which is why she was not detained
 
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