Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[SLICKYINC]

 

[snowvols]

Friend may end up at Auburn with Bobo. It doesn't look like he had signed his contract yet.

 

[BAJAvol]

I was 99% he is coming back until the Lowe report dropped yesterday. Don’t see Chris saying that unless he has been told some solid info

 

[Smokeytom]

This is such a bullish!t take, and I’m not specifically referring to Barnes either. Every player in sport, no matter the sport, has strengths and weaknesses. Who cares if their man scores 14, who’s to say if you put somebody else on that player they won’t score 14?

This team has decencies on the offensive end of the floor. Barnes has to figure out a way to get and keep Bailey on the floor, earn that 5 million.

Relax. If we shoot our average from 3pt we beat Bama and win by double digits last night. We’re missing wide open shots. Defense is what won us the game last night. Locked down, forced 20 turnovers and got a lot of easy buckets in that 2nd half. This team is capable of scoring 100 on good nights. Barnes knows what he is doing.

 

[SLICKYINC]

Good deal. Did you ever find a BCG?

Nope. Looked everyday too. I’ll probably sign up for a couple of back in stock emails.

 

[Vols2DaWall]

Damn. ESPN with an article about not hiring coaches. That's bigly

 

[Kingston Vol]

Last month, ESPN reported that compliance department officials had interviewed current players, recruits, assistant coaches, student volunteers and other athletics department officials involved in football recruiting. The sources said the interviews started in November.

The sources told ESPN that Tennessee's recruitment of Amarius Mims, the No. 3 offensive tackle and No. 19 player overall in the 2021 ESPN 300, is part of the compliance department's inquiry. Mims signed with Georgia.

The attorneys have interviewed current players this week about alleged improper benefits and other rules violations, sources told ESPN.

While Tennessee officials wait for the investigation to be completed, the athletics department hasn't renewed or extended the contracts of assistant coaches, some of whom have deals that expire at the end of this month, including running backs coach Tee Martin and inside linebackers coach Brian Niedermeyer.

The Volunteers also have at least two vacancies after head coach Jeremy Pruitt fired defensive line coach Jimmy Brumbaugh after four games and offensive line coach Will Friend left for South Carolina last month.

Under the terms of Pruitt's contract, if the university fires him with cause, he "shall not be entitled to further salary, compensation, benefits, perquisites, or any other athletically related income or benefits derived by virtue of Coach's position as Head Football Coach, from the University."

ESPN making all of these things public record is a big deal.

 

[rekinhavoc]

Let me be more blunt is there any connection between student assistants and the investigation?

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

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Hmm...sounds like the poster from FF mentioning someone very connected via legal compliance said to look for news towards end of week is on to something. Today may actually be the day...or tomorrow at the least.

 

[Ace]

Sources: Vols put pause on deals amid inquiry

It's coming.

That article called Deondre Johnson a star defensive end - that is funny

 

[InVOLuntary]

Nope. Looked everyday too. I’ll probably sign up for a couple of back in stock emails.

You might research the differences. If it's simply a different bolt but the carrier is the same you may find the bolt and buy a 556 carrier group and change it yourself. Pretty easy. I did it with a 6.5 spc

 

[UTSuave’]

Uhh...did y’all just get the same espn update or am I considered a insider

 

[pismonque]

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Dude, how’d you get a picture of my house? That’s private land.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Here’s my question. Would y’all accept Jerrod Mayo as the new HC? Because I believe most of us basement GMs/ADs would bit*h and moan for months because he didn’t have any experience as HC, never been a coordinator, only coached for 2 years, etc... yet the Texans, an NFL franchise is/was considering it. What about Cleveland’s coach? Most poopoo’ed that too... yet look at them... complete turnaround.

I don’t trust our hiring people to see talent as well as nfl GM’s but my point is hiring a coach is almost always a risk. Maybe 3 coaches would be considered program changers and the rest would be an unknown. (Saban, Meyers and maybe Dabo but I think he’s more of an Orgeron than a Saban.)...

NFL coaches do less. GMs usually deal with the "recruiting" if ya will. And your coordinators/positional guys teach your system. Ya really just have to be a glue guy, former players have done well doing that in the NFL.

It's just a different job for a HC in college, far less "ball talk" and far more "management" why I think some coaches do well in one and bad in the other. Spurrier is a great example, no one at any level doubts the guy knows football. But he couldn't handle how little he was involved in the NFL. It's why a guy like Chip Kelly wanted full control, but then sunk under it.

Plus NFL doesn't have to deal with buyouts, admins etc. so you can take a risk and move on after 2 years if it doesn't pan out and the job isn't suddenly "toxic" or a "full rebuild" a good coach hire by the Jags and they'll be right back in the mix next season.

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

ESPN making all of these things public record is a big deal.

Please don’t fire with cause. Just pay the buyout and try to part as peacefully as possible before more is unveiled, and then we face major sanctions!!

 

[goooooovols]

Hmm...sounds like the poster from FF mentioning someone very connected via legal compliance said to look for news towards end of week is on to something. Today may actually be the day...or tomorrow at the least.

Just when I’m drifting away from thinking anything is gonna happen... I get sucked back in lol

 

[BruinVol]

Ok. But why? Not specifically Mayo but why the narrow mindedness when it comes to selections? (Not you specifically)...

The two biggest qualifications for me in our next coach is being a head coach and experience recruiting at the big boy level

i can support a hire without 1 of those but having neither disqualifies one for me

jmo

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

I was 99% he is coming back until the Lowe report dropped yesterday. Don’t see Chris saying that unless he has been told some solid info

Kinda the same. That was a game changer for me.

Don’t know what the hold up is. This is all a terrible look. Typical Tennessee.

Hope we have someone worth a **** lined up if it does happen.

 

[Playdo]

 

[SLICKYINC]

Dude, how’d you get a picture of my house? That’s private land.

Wut, that’s my Ancestral home... Cousin?

 

[InVOLuntary]

@SLICKYINC

It looks like you can do that. Here's the bolt:

7.62x39 MPI Tested Black Nitride Bolt Head with Phos. Extractor |

It also says you need an enhanced firing pin. You can easily modify a standard firing pin by chucking it up in a drill and sanding a couple of thousands off the shoulder to allow it to strike the primer a little deeper. That's been one issue with the 7.62 -They require a little deeper primer strike.

 

[Neyland Law Vol]

This sucks! Just pay the buyout. This effort to save some money is going to destroy the program. No one will want this job, and the roster will be so depleted we will be firing again after 3 years of bad football from the next staff.

 

[UTSuave’]

Soooooo @HankHill @Ron Swanson @Bassmaster_Vol @Kingston Vol fellas! Volnation WarRoom time given the espn update that just hit the internet’s...what do you think this possibly Means...I’ll hang up and listen...

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

Context is BS. Ok, well I will refrain from attempting to have any intelligent conversations with you moving forward. And as an added thought: I hope to God you are not in a position to make important decisions in your place of work.

Context is relevant if it is a year or two. It is not relevant with the number of years Marrone has coached at both levels and his .388 HC record. Stop trying to defend the indefensible.

 

[Kingston Vol]

The days of the mega buyout may be numbered

First, they’re all geared towards giving the school some leverage to push for a lower buyout number.
Maybe that happens privately, as with Florida and McElwain. Maybe it means going to court, like Kansas and Beaty did. Either way, the mere threat of withholding a buyout shifts the balance of power. The school has more resources to fight a long battle, either legally or in the media, than the coach does. They can effectively starve a coach into submission – take this reduced offer today, or fight us and get nothing while you do.
Second, and somewhat essential to the first, athletic departments know these coaches are unlikely to get much public sympathy.
Most of them are millionaires, after all. Worse, they’re failed millionaires. Fans and boosters are not going to be moved by the plight of coaches that are no longer part of the program and didn’t meet expectations when they were.
Third, the schools can win just by running clock.
Kansas, for example, wound up paying Beaty $2.55 million, and the school’s legal bills in the case were around $350,000 as of April 2020. That’s pretty much the $3 million Beaty was owed in the first place, so aren’t the Jayhawks in the exact same spot, plus some bad press? They’re not, for one reason: Kansas got to keep most of that money for 15 months.
There’s an economic concept called the time value of money that explains why $3,000,000 in June 2020 is worth less than that same sum in Winter 2018. But even if you don’t think Kansas was going to invest that three million dollars and enjoy the interest, that’s nearly a year and a half where the athletic department didn’t have to cough that money up (or go ask donors for it). Arkansas’s already on the hook to pay $10 million to Bielema’s successor, Chad Morris, so every month they don’t have to pay Bielema himself is a welcome one. Imagine you can delay this year’s rent and just add it to next year’s, only in this case you are a major athletic institution making millions of dollars off unpaid labor.
Perhaps these are just outliers, rare cases where schools hit a cash flow problem or resented the idea of paying a former coach his full buyout, and there’s no pattern here. But schools were doing this when their biggest financial challenge was pretending to be broke. Now, with a global pandemic squeezing college budgets and threatening football revenue lines, they might have actual money problems, so athletic departments are cutting sports and looking for savings wherever they can. Arkansas, Florida, Kansas, and (maybe) USF have built a playbook for how to reduce or delay a hefty buyout payment. Are you that confident other schools aren’t going to copy it?